Better not insult the traveller folks

shifty_uk said:
Ninja edit: The woman was wrong, they are very sociable individuals, they don't cause havoc where ever they go, they aren't thieves with zero ability to conform to the standards of the general public and they are very lovely people. The girls don't dress like wannabe Katie Price slags, either.
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:D I lol'd
 
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PermaBanned said:
Being racist without inciting racial hatred is like being a wife beater without beating your wife. You know it's wrong, so you stop yourself from doing it. But you probably have a mental issue which means that it isn't your fault. Of course people shouldn't be punished for what is beyond their control. That would be thought crime.
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Perhaps. But we're NOT dealing with a race here. It's a way of life... I'm sure some travelling folk are lovely. Perhaps the ones that actually do some travelling, rather than the majority which seem to find somewhere illegal to set up camp, cause havoc for weeks or months, make a mess, indulge in criminal activities then MAYBE move off when they've leeched the life out of the area.

It's not a race. Therefore how can it be inciting racial hatred? It's voicing of an opinion if you ask me.
 
Jono said:
Perhaps. But we're NOT dealing with a race here. It's a way of life... I'm sure some travelling folk are lovely. Perhaps the ones that actually do some travelling, rather than the majority which seem to find somewhere illegal to set up camp, cause havoc for weeks or months, make a mess, indulge in criminal activities then MAYBE move off when they've leeched the life out of the area.

It's not a race. Therefore how can it be inciting racial hatred? It's voicing of an opinion if you ask me.
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Evidently UK Law disagrees.
 
Gypsies have been called Pikies since at least the 16th century.......and it derives from their travelling lifestyle but let us be clear here, Gypsies are not Irish Travellers and so calling an Irish Traveller a ***** isn't racist as the pejorative can and is also applied to anyone who lives a certain way....and is commonly used to describe a person of disrepute and of a lower class.....in fact the term is most commonly used amongst Romani Gypsies to describe Travellers.....

It is no diferrent from calling kids hanging around council estates Chavs or Hoodies.....are they going to fine everyone who uses that kind of terminology as well?

God knows where that leaves comedians and the like?
 
It's not racial, they are just offended by it which is just stupid. Being offensive towards them is not going to do any good and will just create tensions in the community. If she lived locally then I would understand, otherwise it's pretty ludicrous that she has been prosecuted.
 
PermaBanned said:
Evidently UK Law disagrees.
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No it doesn't:

A CPS ruling from 2003 against the Firle Bonfire Society accepts that the terminology ***** is not a racist term in itself and that their was insufficient evidence to assume the term is limited to a recognised racial group.....it could possibly be seen a discrimination, but not racism or incitement to racial hatred.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/3321895/Outrage-as-gipsies-are-set-alight-at-village-party.html

Again, Irish Travellers are not a race and are not recognised as such.....they are not to be confused with Romani Gypsies.
 
Castiel said:
No it doesn't:

A CPS ruling from 2003 against the Firle Bonfire Society accepts that the terminology ***** is not a racist term in itself and that their was insufficient evidence to assume the term is limited to a recognised racial group.....it could possibly be seen a discrimination, but not racism or incitement to racial hatred.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/3321895/Outrage-as-gipsies-are-set-alight-at-village-party.html

Again, Irish Travellers are not a race and are not recognised as such.....they are not to be confused with Romani Gypsies.
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The term '*****' isn't all that she said though, is it?
 
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