LoL or Heroes of Newearth

HoN has a much higher learning curve than LoL and i think it's far more rewarding if you have a skin thick enough to not mind getting killed loads and no doubt flamed aswell. You will improve the more you play it though. I think the shop + stash + buying / selling from your lane is far better than LoL's shop.
 
Ya not kidding about the high learning curve, Is there any guides I can find or use for beginners for this. I still have it on my computer just for a change but I had to go back to LoL because I wasnt getting anywhere or given a chance to try and improve lol
 
I had a quick look on the forums and these look pretty helpful:

http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=2625
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=44130

Training forums:

http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/forumdisplay.php?f=43

Strategy forums:

http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/forumdisplay.php?f=9

You will get flamed, a lot, the community is pretty harsh but there are some helpful people out there. Just ignore the idiots and play your game, i would advise doing some no stats games just to get the feel of it before jumping straight into matchmaking. It's well worth perservering with as i think it is an excellent game.
 
arknor said:
people do that in lol .... the good players anyway if you dont you can end up with someone like nasus beeing stupid op after laning ends.

seriously people keep saying dota is harder of more complex but cant give any genuine reason as to why... all the same tactics are used in each of the games whilst the graphics and map sizes change nothing else really does in the normal mode
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Some of the reasons why dota is a more complex game:

Denying - This isnt just about xp and gold, its also about lane control. A good player can stop the lane moving and farm forever.

Skills and MP - Very few skills in dota are spammable, mis timing a skill can completely ruin a team fight or a gank. I think there are also many more skill shots in dota which are usually harder (compare mirana arrow to ashe, pudge hook to blitzcrank etc).

Map mobility - In LoL there is no way of getting around the map quickly, this leads to way less ganks and counter ganks, good defences etc. Getting ganked in LoL is...difficult if you have somewhat decent map awareness.

Team setups - I havent watched too many pro LoL games, but are there any viable lane setups other than 1-1-1-2? Dota pro games can have just about every conceivable lane configuration, making picking and counter picking much more complex.

Items - Maybe it's different now but when i was playing LoL there were almost no items with active abilities. These are a huge part of dota. In my opinion there are also many more viable item builds for most heroes.

Mechanics - Miss chance when shooting uphill. Forest juking with the dozens of small gaps you need to learn as well as the ability to knock down trees to create new areas. Night/day cycle vision changes + heroes performing differently at night (does this exist in LoL?).

On top of all this the heroes are often just wayyyyyyyyyy more complex (e.g. invoker).

I might add more stuff as I think of it but this is a general overview.
 
Do you have or Any1 have a hero that I could start off with and learn. Like a reconmended such as LoL so i get used to it and not forget about this game because Its to difficult ha-ha
 
I will have a go tonight, I must admit I prefere HoN's Graphics but I am not used to the gameplay and need to get to grips with laning rather than trying to kill the other hero (this may be my downfall) Because I die and then I feed them gold & Xp
 
RobHu said:
Lich. (Plague rider in hon).
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clartymarty said:
I will have a go tonight, I must admit I prefere HoN's Graphics but I am not used to the gameplay and need to get to grips with laning rather than trying to kill the other hero (this may be my downfall) Because I die and then I feed them gold & Xp
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Wouldn't recommend plague rider as a learning hero for this. You'll get stomped in to oblivion if you don't understand how to play the hero correctly IMO. Based on the current 'free' hero pool I'd either take Valkyrie or Thunderbringer to learn the game. Valk is a safer choice because she's got a couple of good escape mechanisms to survive ganks and is a very simple concept to understand. TB is pretty similar in simplicity but is a lot less forgiving if you put yourself in a bad position.
 
Well I am new to it so I would greatly appriciate any1's input lol When choosing a game do you think I should play 3v3 or 5v5? Obs with no stats game like lol

I just found the interface and menu's a little complex when being a noob really but I will give it another go tonight. I am waiting for Dota 2 to come out (dont know release date) but practice before that happens because I will be exactly the same,
 
I found it easiest to learn using a ranged hero. Plague Rider, Pyromancer and Witch Slayer are 3 pretty easy heroes to start with. All have means of slowing / stunning and have very strong ultimates. They also have 600 range so you can stand way behind your creep line to last hit.
 
I would not recommend valk :O, she needs good farm and her skill shot is difficult. The leap and ult also take a lot of experience to time right (leaping in vs saving to leap out!).
 
The game is balanced around 5v5 so stick with that. Also i would recommend not playing casual, as again, the game isn't balanced around that mode.
 
Well Getting plenty of tips and tricks now like :) I want to give it another go because I don’t just want to give up. I can take criticism; I can take loosing just getting frustrated with people who don’t give ya a chance lol

When do they rotate for the free characters? Also once I get some coin, what would you recommend to buy as a started.
 
Yeah it is frustrating but you always get people moaning even when you're loads better than them. Just ignore them. They do it once a week, usually on friday patch days. I would just save for now until you get a bit more used to the game and see what hero you find best to play. Something like emerald warden when you are a bit better would be good as it's a fairly easy hero to play that can do some serious damage.
 
Yeah well I am a tough guy I can take it =p well I was a noob at LoL and thought it was hard until I got better and learnt the play style granted its easier like but I am willing to learn.

Does any1 know anything about a release date for Dota 2?
 
I have played all 3. I play both HoN and Dota2 regularly, I like both the games, but I think HoN has the edge with character models and spells compared to DoTa2, however Dota2 is still in its beta phase.

DoTa 2 feels more balanced though, but it does lack some features that i like from HoN (concede, and game modes, again its still in beta so things still to come)

LoL on the other hand.... i played it for a time with a friend who used to like it. I really didnt get on with the graphic style, the game seemed so easy compared to HoN, I smashed the majority of the games i played without even knowing the heroes i was playing.

Lots of passive items, usable items require more skill and timing. Denying! It requires more skill end of.
 
I have only played LoL but have recently gotten addicted to the game and wanted to try somthing out which is similar. At first I was the same as you Wilber about the graphics but soon got over that.

Dota 2 is what I am aiming for practice on HoN and try to master the skills abit more. I do admit that it does have more skill with Denying and concentrating on laning more :)
 
I have to say this though the HoN Community are harsh. Its a free game to play and you will always have Newbies but there isnt any need for the ear bashing ya get lol although you do get the rare people who try to assist you as much as they can (not very often)
 
The key to having fun in HoN is to play Silhouette. Seriously the most fun hero I've seen in any MOBA game. If she was in LoL I'd be so happy.
 
There are a couple of things I dont like about HoN

1) The community really sucks full of Vet's that give you a lot of abuse
2) For some reason, must just be what I am doing but for some reason I can't deny kills, just wont let me kill them for some reason.
3) It just feels cluttered compared to LoL
4) No Bot modes where you can practice without getting abused or kicked for not being any good.
5) The main menu seems cluttered and not simple enough for newbies.

I am looking forward to Dota2 and hope that they make the game available for new players and not scare them off with the vets.

Think thats about it lol
 
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