Suing for medical negligance

So, what if the surgeon in question continues to repeat the same mistake? Should they not be pulled up on poor practice? Personally I'd be a bit miffed if I had surgery and it was performed poorly because people previously were told to MTFU. It's better that the first person makes a formal complaint, sues or whatever, so the practice is improved.

OP - none of your complaints have much basis though without knowing what the norm is, you need to consult someone and find out what is normal for the procedure you've had. It's a fairly major operation so you will be affected in some ways. I would speculate you should be able to live fairly normally a year or so later, but as none of us are surgeons it's all conjecture.

It sounds like you maybe were not made aware of the procedure and possible after effects, in which case you should have been and I'd imagine if that's the case other patients are not being consulted properly. Not something to sue someone for, but the NHS/CQC should be made aware of your complaints as a minimum.
 
13 staples? lol

I had some stitching and that was that, think the slice is about 2 / 3 inches long...

I had my appendix taken out AND my intenstines out of that whole! :p Your surgeon was just messy quite frankly.

However, things 'can' go wrong, and you more than likely had to agree to something prior to the op?
 
Delvis said:
13 staples? lol

I had some stitching and that was that, think the slice is about 2 / 3 inches long...

I had my appendix taken out AND my intenstines out of that whole! :p Your surgeon was just messy quite frankly.

However, things 'can' go wrong, and you more than likely had to agree to something prior to the op?
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Was my surgeon messy, I had 13 staples?
 
shadesofgrey said:
Without seeing the medical records anyone could be right or wrong, everything put forward so far is conjecture. Either something went wrong that was out of line of the scope of the procedure which if was down to the fault of the surgeon, which would be negligence, or there were complications that could not be avoided and they simply did the correct thing at the time.

I don't think anyone should be ramming their opinion down the throat of the OP without knowing the facts first. I doubt that if there was zero negligence the OP would still feel like he is owed something. The trouble is, he just does not know. Should have applied for the notes a long time ago.


Edit: I had complications with an open root canal being filled too soon with the infection obviously still apparant on the final xray. Which in turn left me in hospital with a massive swollen head, on IV anti biotics and pain killers.

Which I can take on the chin, it's my fault I was being seen by a newly graduate dentist. Everyone has to learn from a mistake at some point.

What I'm struggling with atm is when I went back to have it drained the lead dentist told my dentist to go in through a healthy tooth, that had never been filled, to drain and preform root canal on it. 'Luckily' for me when he started (which he stated he was not comfortable doing, due to the tooth being healthy) it hurt so much he stopped right away and instead drained the crap out of my head by opening up a gum. 2 weeks later everything is fine except I now have to have the hole in the healthy tooth needing filled, to stop decay and stop it being silly sensitive to hot and cold, it never was... which all sounds very un-needed to me. My new dentist has certainly raised an eyebrow at what the lead dentist reccomened.

So I have a choice, follow it up or not?
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'Trust' me if you want to ask a question.
 
Delvis said:
Your surgeon was just messy quite frankly.
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Delvis said:
Which one?

I've seen several appendix 'scars' and never have I seen one with 10+ staples.

What qualifies you to say that's it normal to have 1=+ staples ;)
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Wow, what a fountain of knowledge you must be having seen several appendix scars....

A gangrenous perforated appendix that is retrocaecal and formed a complex mass involving the right colon and ileum can be an absolute mess to try to treat. I have performed several appendicectomies that take 25 minutes with a nice small scar (as a surgical trainee), I have also seen senior registrars calling consultants for assistance due to the complexity of some cases.

The fact that they used staples in the OPs case suggests that the appendix had perforated with pus around the area and a high chance of wound infection, as it is normal to close the skin with subcuticular sutures otherwise.

The only way the OP will know for sure is to either look at his notes or speak to the team responsible at the hospital to find out more about the operation and the symptoms he suffers from now. All the abuse of the OP is completely uncalled for as he just wanted to know how he would find out more. Equally the completely misguided comments by people that haven't even seen an appendicectomy performed are bringing nothing to this discussion.
 
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PikeyPriest said:
The only way the OP will know for sure is to either look at his notes or speak to the team responsible at the hospital to find out more about the operation and the symptoms he suffers from now. All the abuse of the OP is completely uncalled for as he just wanted to know how he would find out more. Equally the completely misguided comments by people that haven't even seen an appendicectomy performed are bringing nothing to this discussion.
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Since I know how the system works I would ring the Complaints Department and ask the necessary questions of his case.
This will be entered onto a DATIX system and all relevant Health Professionals will be notified of this Complaint and hopefully answers will appear that the OP may be happy with.
If he isn't happy after that then he can go and see a Solicitor.
 
Nitefly said:
How did you come to that conclusion :confused:

Tripe is the stomach.

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Best thing posted so far :D

I was going to post a more intelligent rebuttal to the "I've had surgery I know everything" dude but I was shopping and can't type and walk. PikeyPriest has cleared up everything I wanted to say nicely.
 
Hikari Kisugi said:
'Trust' me if you want to ask a question.
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Thank you for the offer Hikari, I will mull it over and trust you if anything comes to mind.

Dimple said:
It pains me to say this but these guys are excellent - http://www.dentallaw.co.uk/?gclid=CMKMuLOBh64CFQcRfAodjRCf5A
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Thank you too Dimples. I'm not a big fan of the claim culture, this seems pretty minor but I will think it over. I'm more worried about graduate dentists being told to do the wrong thing by their peers who should be looking out for them.

I did ring my dentist to ask about the work done, I believe him when he says he tried his best regarding the definitive treatment on the first tooth, tho he did say maybe he should have put me on post op antibiotics considering how massive the infection was. But he also admited that he was not comfortable starting the treatment on the healthy tooth to drain the infection, and would not be doing so if I came back. I feel a little bit sorry for him as he was in a rock and a hard place between doing what he thought was wrong, but his peer had told him to do. Ah well, lessons learnt all 'round I guess. Except for the lead dentist, I have a feeling he is not losing any sleep over the affair.

Anyhoo, thanks again. :)
 
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OldCoals said:
I have had my appendix removed, 13 staples and the scar feels numb. Seems pretty normal to me.
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I have a whole bunch of scars, all feel a little weird and numb, the largest one (which runs from buttock to knee) feels really weird, sensitive and numb at the same time if that makes sense.

As for the OP, have you even spoken to the Hospital or the Surgeon?

Was there any complications or reasons for a larger scar than normal, was there even negligence, or was it simply a case of you not fitting into a routine procedure demographic?

I think litiation should be the last option and you should get more information and at least speak formally to the hospital first.
 
shadesofgrey said:
Thank you for the offer Hikari, I will mull it over and trust you if anything comes to mind.


Thank you too Dimples. I'm not a big fan of the claim culture, this seems pretty minor but I will think it over. I'm more worried about graduate dentists being told to do the wrong thing by their peers who should be looking out for them.

I did ring my dentist to ask about the work done, I believe him when he says he tried his best regarding the definitive treatment on the first tooth, tho he did say maybe he should have put me on post op antibiotics considering how massive the infection was. But he also admited that he was not comfortable starting the treatment on the healthy tooth to drain the infection, and would not be doing so if I came back. I feel a little bit sorry for him as he was in a rock and a hard place between doing what he thought was wrong, but his peer had told him to do. Ah well, lessons learnt all 'round I guess. Except for the lead dentist, I have a feeling he is not losing any sleep over the affair.

Anyhoo, thanks again. :)
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Well, I would love to see the radiographs they took, but I have never ever heard of drilling a healthy tooth to drain infection from around another. Only if you thought it was a potential source of the infection also. It seems a very odd thing to attempt.
 
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