I'm not sure what you meant by "x686 desktop" TBF.
Desktop gaming in the next 5 years
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I'm not sure what you meant by "x686 desktop" TBF.
very important when we are talking about deffinitions.
X86 or x86-64
Your standard desktop/laptop CPUs by and/intel, have a different architect to SoC chips(one is phones/most tablets), as such programming for them is different.
I know that, I thought you were referring to some different architecture named x686.
What, 5 years? Tablets already output to large screen TV's for games that match Xbox resolution. We have tablets due this year that beat Xbox for graphics power. No need to wait 5 years.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIBxq4BuHpE Next gen tablets will have more then x20 more graphics power then this.
EDIT: I can see mobile devices with wireless docking stations with keyboard mouse as the way forward.
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Perhaps not that long. Desktop sales dropped a lot and mobiles massively overtook desktop sales for the first time last year.Desktops aren't going anywhere for the foreseeable future
Desktops have droped to 29million sales. Mobiles devices have gone up to over 200millon.
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wow, that is pretty impressive. I wasn't even aware that tablets are capable of doing that now!
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wow, that is pretty impressive. I wasn't even aware that tablets are capable of doing that now!
Phones too can run shadowgun
wow, that is pretty impressive. I wasn't even aware that tablets are capable of doing that now!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL7p2P6Ft3Y This is even more impressive as it's on a phone. By the end of this year phones and tablets should be well beyond today's consoles in power.
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It's only iphone though?
Doesn't cover all phones in the slightest.
Frame rate isn't the best at all.
It looks nice and all, but I wouldn't like to say they'd be beyond todays consoles.
Also, there's a lot less going on.
I can see that mobile phone etc are becoming rather powerful for what they once were, and they're increasing in power all the time, but you're being hyperbolic.
When it comes down to it, and as proven, GTA 3 which has gone on android is playable on a plethora of phones, I'd say we're at about that standard right now.
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I was using that as a reference for today's power as many are not aware how advance phones/tablets have got. The next gen graphics chips in phones due in 2012 are x20 more powerful then that video. That should be beyond today's consoles.
x20 more powerful? any links to that insane claim? x20 more powerful would be even more powerful than 7970 crossfire which is plain retarded and impossible.
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No it wouldn't, 4670's like 3 times more powerful than the GPU on consoles with 320 shaders on an older architecture.
But I agree, a massive claim of 20x lol, would also seem impossible on a mobile device at this current era of technology.
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he said 20x times more powerful than the prime that uses a quad core tegra 3 that's just insane and absolutely impossible. 1.5-2x yes but 20x? LOL
x2 Tegra 3 is easy as Tegra is so far behind everyone else in GPU power. As for the 7970, x20 more power then current mobile GPU's would be around 100GFLOPS. A HD7970 is what 947GFLOPS to around 2000GFLOPS with crossfire ? Mobiles are catching up fast but still a long way behind
To be clear I was talking about GPU power not CPU. I thought it was well known by now that PowerVR series 6 is full DirectX11.1 functionality and is meant to be x20 more powerful then series 5. On top of that series 5 is more powerful then Tegra 3. We should end up more then x20 over Tegra 3.
http://www.imgtec.com/News/Release/index.asp?NewsID=666
http://toucharcade.com/2012/01/11/i...as-powerful-and-likely-headed-to-ios-devices/
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Imag...efficient-might-coming-to-our-gadgets_id25678
" Delivering the best performance in both GFLOPS/mm2 and GFLOPS/mW, PowerVR Series6 GPUs can deliver 20x or more of the performance of current generation GPU cores targeting comparable markets. This is enabled by an architecture that is around 5x more efficient than previous generations."
" PowerVR Series6 GPU cores are designed to offer computing performance exceeding 100GFLOPS (gigaFLOPS) and reaching the TFLOPS (teraFLOPS) range"
This is the first new generation from PowerVR in years and is massively better then generation 5. The past few years have just been refresh chips after refresh. So we are due for a stunning increase in performance this year assuming no one has been lying about the speeds. PowerVR have a good track record of hitting the numbers they say.
EDIT: I have to assume the G6400 is x20 power and the G6200 is x10power otherwise we are talking silly numbers for the G6400. Anyway my point is it will not take 5 years to beat current consoles. We should be past current consoles this year. EDIT2: Perhaps they mean x20 over an SGX543mp1 not x20 over an SGX543MP2? That would make the G6400 only x10 faster and G6200 x5.
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Qualcomm is one of the companies signed up so we should see some epic w8 tablets. Apple also use them. So I don't see why they would switch suppliers.
Several articles say 20times faster than SGX543MP2
Oh and 5x as efficient.
Several articles say 20times faster than SGX543MP2
Oh and 5x as efficient.
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I'm with Glaucus on the laptop/desktop issue - a laptop with peripherals plugged is is definitely still a laptop, because it can be moved around and used standalone without the peripherals - the same cannot be said for a real desktop i.e. a PC case that has no input devices, no screen etc.
In fact in the corporate market that is kinda the whole point; many employees need laptops for remote working but you don't want to have to give them a desktop as well for office work so you provide them with peripherals to use when in the office. Even within the office, a laptop is different from desktop as you can easily take it into meetings etc, something that can't be said said for desktops.
Describing a laptop as a desktop because it can be plugged in and used at a desk is a bit like describing a car as an apartment because you can sleep, eat, listen to music in it etc. Bad analogy because you don't plug much into a car for the above other than CDs, food and maybe a pillow, but I could probably come up with something better if desired.
In fact in the corporate market that is kinda the whole point; many employees need laptops for remote working but you don't want to have to give them a desktop as well for office work so you provide them with peripherals to use when in the office. Even within the office, a laptop is different from desktop as you can easily take it into meetings etc, something that can't be said said for desktops.
Describing a laptop as a desktop because it can be plugged in and used at a desk is a bit like describing a car as an apartment because you can sleep, eat, listen to music in it etc. Bad analogy because you don't plug much into a car for the above other than CDs, food and maybe a pillow, but I could probably come up with something better if desired.