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Latest single GPU just dont cut it (will they ever)

zuludawn

zuludawn

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With all the bull that's going on about who makes the fastest GPU , I thought some ingame Benchmarks with Fraps at 2560x1440 were needed here is ATI's offering

The results are at everything maxed no in game mods

i7 920 at 4 gig
12 gig ddr3 mem at 1600 mhz
XFX 7970 Black Edition 3072MB gpu 1125 mem 1575 no voltage mod.

All average results

Crysis 45 fps
BF3 muti 64 player 43 fps
Skyrim 44 fps
Shift 2 Unleashed 25 fps
Napoleon: Total War 30 fps

Will a single card ever be powerful enough to run Crysis at max settings a 5 years old game.
Drop off AA a little then steady 60fps, modern games will be future proof for a long time.
 
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zuludawn said:
Will a single card ever be powerful enough to run Crysis at max settings a 5 years old game
maxed out. Drop off AA a little then steady 60fps, modern games will be future proof for a long time.
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Will you ever gain the technical logical knowledge to finally hammer home the fact that Crysis is a terrible, messy, poorly coded game and no matter how much polish you throw at a turd you ain't gonna make it shine.

See also = Metro 2033.
 
Well considering 2560x1440 has ~75% more pixels than 1920x1080, the card has more pixels to deal with... add AA to that and that's a lot of power that only crossfire/SLi can reach.
 
zuludawn said:
And the other 4 ???? all bad coding
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Most of them yes. You need to realise those games were not written with a PC in mind.

Then you need to realise that there are a million different PC configurations out there, then you need to add in the fact that the drivers for the 7970 are still very much new, and thus older games have been left on the sidelines to concentrate on the newer ones (because people care about FPS counts, y'all)


Not only that but there's a strong likelihood your CPU is holding the card back.
 
Most people happily game @ 1920x1080, as thats full HD, and not many people go any higher than that, and for most people, a single GPU card can handle anything quite easily, as having a duel GPU card, or Xfire/SLI is quite terrible to live with, so many people have problems/issues a lot of the time, when most want to slot the card in, download the drivers and start playing games, without thinking "is the profile available for X game yet"
 
Im getting the 7970, for 1440p.

I've read its pretty good. You must on some crazy settings.

Also Im getting 40-50fps on Skyrim on my 4890 dx9 though.
 
Would be intresting to see how many have high res setups for gaming, me for one is getting another 7970 just so i can max everything out to stop messing about with settings, dropping on thing off here and lowering another there. (mass Ebay sale of old Gpu cards to fund it lol.)

Had a 5970 and 5870 trifire before enough for 1920x1080 but got crucified at 2560x1440 like Skyrim at 12 fps maxed. More Vram was needed
 
zuludawn said:
Would be intresting to see how many have high res setups for gaming, me for one is getting another 7970 just so i can max everything out to stop messing about with settings, dropping on thing off here and lowering another there. (mass Ebay sale of old Gpu cards to fund it lol.)

Had a 5970 and 5870 trifire before enough for 1920x1080 but got crucified at 2560x1440 like Skyrim at 12 fps maxed. More Vram was needed
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Skyrim blows with multi GPU's, that was probably more of the issue tbh, though I agree you'd have been hitting VRAM limits.
 
Don't blame the graphics card industry because you buy a stupidly big monitor (or 3):). I don't quite get the need for massive PC screens. Sure, a 60" 3D TV serves a purpose, but a big PC monitor just doesn't do anything for me. Anything bigger than 24" takes the personal out of PC. I also prefer Alt+Tab to displaying multiple windows on the same screen, but perhaps I am old school. I have also never seen a game played at super high resololutions (including a few Eyefinity setups) that actually made the game itself any better that when played at 1080P/1200P.

Just another way to stretch the epeen if you ask me.
 
Martini1991 said:
Skyrim blows with multi GPU's, that was probably more of the issue tbh, though I agree you'd have been hitting VRAM limits.
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Skyrim is a 7970 hater. Well, an AMD hater it seems. I've not played it on mine yet.

Didn't really grab me tbh. Shame, because I idolise Fallout 3/NV but I just can't do the whole spells and magic theme :(

Still, at least I got a sneaky preview of what Fallout 4 will look like graphically :D
 
555BUK said:
Don't blame the graphics card industry because you buy a stupidly big monitor (or 3):). I don't quite get the need for massive PC screens. Sure, a 60" 3D TV serves a purpose, but a big PC monitor just doesn't do anything for me. Anything bigger than 24" takes the personal out of PC. I also prefer Alt+Tab to displaying multiple windows on the same screen, but perhaps I am old school. I have also never seen a game played at super high resololutions (including a few Eyefinity setups) that actually made the game itself any better that when played at 1080P/1200P.

Just another way to stretch the epeen if you ask me.
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Spoken like a true OLD old schooler.

Bigger resolution the better. 27" is the new 24!
 
ALXAndy said:
Skyrim is a 7970 hater. Well, an AMD hater it seems. I've not played it on mine yet.

Didn't really grab me tbh. Shame, because I idolise Fallout 3/NV but I just can't do the whole spells and magic theme :(

Still, at least I got a sneaky preview of what Fallout 4 will look like graphically :D
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7970 hates DX9.
 
ALXAndy said:
Most of them yes. You need to realise those games were not written with a PC in mind.

Then you need to realise that there are a million different PC configurations out there, then you need to add in the fact that the drivers for the 7970 are still very much new, and thus older games have been left on the sidelines to concentrate on the newer ones (because people care about FPS counts, y'all)


Not only that but there's a strong likelihood your CPU is holding the card back.
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Aint seen Napoleon: Total War at or Shogun no PS3 and many RTS's, so it not all console ports is it.. My kids have a 2500k each both clocked a 4.6 gig there aint that much difference to make up fps against i7 4 gig.

When you see multipual Video settings in the options (it may be just me) it would be nice to see them all clicked when u just spent £450.00 on the latest all singing, dancing GPU

By the way i don't need to realise anything, was just pointing out the gap between high res gaming and latest GPU.
 
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Martini1991 said:
7970 hates DX9.
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Yeah it would seem so. Mind you, now that they've got their cards out and they're selling they can now concentrate on drivers :)

Obviously their initial concern is making the card beat the 580 in all the so called important games for sales purposes. Now they can get to work on older games.

Mind you in fairness I haven't really had any problems. If I have then I've not been FPS counting but I've not seen any stuttering or heavy FPS drops.
 
zuludawn said:
Aint seen Napoleon: Total War at or Shogun no PS3 and many RTS's, so it not all console ports is it.. My kids have a 2500k each both clocked a 4.6 gig there aint that much difference to make up fps against i7 4 gig.

When you see multipual Video settings in the options (it may be just me) but it would be nice to see them all clicked when u just spent £450.00 on the latest all singing, dancing GPU

Buy the way i don't need to realise anything, was just pointing out the gap between high res gaming and latest GPU.
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There is no such thing as a console port :rolleyes:

The Xbox 360 is a PC. A crappy, small, slow, underpowered PC in a hot box.

However, when you only have one architecture to code for it makes optimising that code far far easier, which is why the 360 can do what it does.

When you take that code and try and optimise it for millions of different configurations, that all need drivers, you run into issues.

Second hand console slop? yes. But not a console port. They are all coded in the same way, using the coding method of choice (C++ usually).

You also need to bear in mind that consoles don't have DX11. So any DX11 game on the PC is a patch, an afterthought, a nice gesture.

When (and it won't be too long now) Microsoft settle on their next config for their next console (which appears to be a 6570 or something like the one on Llano) then we will see more DX11 games coded properly to be ran in DX11 natively.
 
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