Bleeping furious right now!

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Jay794 said:
You're one of the lucky ones mate, I actually went for a customer service job at a company, and during the interview they asked me why I had applied for this job when I had marketing experience, I found it difficult to respond as all I had going through my head was:

A) I need money!

B) The job centre made me
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Which option did you select?

I would have gone with option A. Best to be honest!
 
Glaucus said:
Whos classing everyone as one?

Yeah because its 200 a month for life. No it's a two month trial that you get an interview for at the end.
So even if you don't get a job, you get a reference, you get job experience and interview practice.
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Im not saying anyone is, im just saying people will be thinking it...

and you dont get an interview at the end of it, some experience but i dont know many work-capable people who dont know how to hang up clothes or fold them. but then again this is the OcUK forums.

unless you been through it then i guess you dont actually know how it goes down.

all the OP's GF needs to do is declare breach of human rights - they will back off works everytime (especialyl if you have been through the process of getting thrown from company to company for months)
 
Glaucus said:
Whos classing everyone as one?

Yeah because its 200 a month for life. No it's a two month trial that you get an interview for at the end.
So even if you don't get a job, you get a reference, you get job experience and interview practice.
If you don't care or try you'll get none of that.

If they just want free workers, why even employ 5% that's a lot of staff over a year.
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pmsl

Are you being for real. Work two months for an interview.

I dont care if you're still receiving bens during the period. That takes ****
 
Jay794 said:
You're one of the lucky ones mate, I actually went for a customer service job at a company, and during the interview they asked me why I had applied for this job when I had marketing experience, I found it difficult to respond as all I had going through my head was:

A) I need money!

B) The job centre made me
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You lie and read the guide in these forums, where ever it is.
I wouldn't say I'm lucky and I'm also crap at interviews which has blocked me from some amazing opotunities. One job they gave to another candidate even though I whipped him in the knowledge and skill selection process, but failed interview.
I've had plenty of jobs.
Order picker, several data entry, warehouse type jobs, slaughter house, even made ribbon bows for chocolate boxes, something like £5 for every thousand I made, fair enough that job wont exist any more. You just have to get out there and be willing to accept anything. Be it nights/day, in a freezer, outside, typing 0-10 in all day. When asked by agencies do you have x-equipment you say yes and then go buy it if they get you a job.
 
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Moses said:
I bet she could have got a job, in those four weeks, if she didn't think certain things are ~below~ her. I think people should just suck it up and get any job, whilst looking for better work, in all honesty. I don't care if someone has A-levels/a degree/whatever... that doesn't mean they can just refuse to work in McDonalds, or similar.

If you were an employer of grads, who would you rather take - a person who'd been out of uni for a year, but had just sat at home watching Jeremy Kyle/doing one grad scheme application a day vs a person would been out of uni for a year, but had been working + doing one grad scheme application per day?
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I was in that position, it's difficult, when you've spent 3 years of your life at uni to go for the jobs that are "beneath you" You assume that those 3 years should mean you're entitled to get a good, well paid job, a job relating to your degree at least.

And yet, here I sit, a degree, letters after my name, and I'm a security guard, which yes, I do consider it beneath me, but I try and make the best of it, look at it this way, I get paid to mess about on a computer and watch TV.

Tell you something though, if I retire and I'm still in this same job, I'm going to jump in front of a train, as I'd consider myself a failure at life.

I didn't burn 3 years of my life not to work in advertising, and I'll do it one day....hopefully
 
robfosters said:
If you are on jobseekers for longer than 3 months, you should be forced to do 1 day a week for your money. Not working for a big corporation, but more like local services, charity shops, that sort of thing. Even then though, you'll find there is not enough call for that.
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shadesofgrey said:
The idea is sound but the hours are too long, it gives her no time to continue looking for work elsewhere because lets face it the chances of them employing her is pretty slim for huge effort.
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4T5 said:
I personally don't agree with Private companys or Corporations getting this "Free" labour but I have no problem at all with the unemployed doing Community work. Litter picking, Park maintenance & even setting up a Help OAP project as well where OAP's can get some free labour for gardening/decorating etc.
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These posts sum of my own view quite well.
 
Tell you something though, if I retire and I'm still in this same job, I'm going to jump in front of a train, as I'd consider myself a failure lol
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Be nice and do it in a way your organs can at least be harvested for the children.
 
4 weeks, is that all? i wish the job center would give my OH some work after 6 months of unemployment (last 2 of those on JSA, the first 4 we made do with me working extra, selling stuff we didint need, cash in hand work etc).

if you dont like the JSA system then dont use it..
 
Izi said:
I would take the (free) job and work hardest there to make sure I got the job at the end of it if it was all that was going, but then I am all for old fashioned hard work - something the UK seems to forget about.

Also, its not for free because she is claiming benefits. Sure it sucks balls, but c'est la vie.
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Usually there won't be a job at the end of it though, they would get rid of you, and just get someone else from the job centre as another free worker, no matter how hard you worked.
 
if you dont like the JSA system then dont use it..
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All the previous work schemes have been OTT not really helped many people get jobs and it pits them 'against the state' while also leaving many feeling degraded. They should just do it in a more relaxed manner, that does not leave people thinking w.t.f.... rather leaves them thinking, yeah thats fair, bring it on.
 
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4T5 said:
I personally don't agree with Private companys or Corporations getting this "Free" labour but I have no problem at all with the unemployed doing Community work. Litter picking, Park maintenance & even setting up a Help OAP project as well where OAP's can get some free labour for gardening/decorating etc.
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I can't agree more with this.

Companies receiving this free/cheap labour must not be able to believe their luck.
 
C.# said:
She has A levels and is not at all thick.
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Sorry but in this day and age they don't exactly mean much, good state level education just separates the shelf-stackers from the shelf-stacking supervisors.

If I could have walked into a respectable £~23k/pa job after school I would not be doing what I am now (lie tbf I still would)

C.# said:
1/10 chance at a job
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Those are outstanding odds! The last job I got I was one of 400 applicants, then 1 in 25 interviewees. I still felt those were great odds given it's the IT sector.
 
The time requirements are rubbish - it takes at least three months for a respectable company to go through the recruitment process (for any half decent jobs).

First you have to apply for the job, then wait for the closing date (up-to two weeks/a month on closing date) - then a week of interviews, followed by a round of second interviews/maths/english/IT tests - by at least a week until they let you know after all the first stages.

Finally if you get offered the role you normally get asked to start a month later.

The last job I got from first application to getting the job took four months, I didn't need JSA thankfully but I'm not going to apply to jobs in Tesco stacking shelf's while I have jobs in IT/Energy trading I'm applying for.

I've checked the JSA website, try finding a job for anything remotely specific (IE, energy related) - no chance.
 
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