Coppers on CH 4 this week - freeman on the land
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Is't it all to do with being able to differentiate between contract law, commercial law and common law and ones place therein?
And the fact our common law has been thrown out the window?
I'll try dig up a recent video about the Chairman of the British Constitution Group who has the courts and judges scared.
Edit: Here we go. Long one tho.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kScy-FoO0d8&feature=player_embedded
And the fact our common law has been thrown out the window?
I'll try dig up a recent video about the Chairman of the British Constitution Group who has the courts and judges scared.
Edit: Here we go. Long one tho.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kScy-FoO0d8&feature=player_embedded
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Only in his own eyes, plus a few of the fruit-loops who follow (as much as is possible) his ideas. The magistrates I know have a reaction that is a lot closer to rolling of eyes when he and his ilk hove into view. But you can't argue with him or his supports because they aren't rational. The ideas they espouse are essentially just a weak attempt to get around laws they don't like, usually ones involving paying taxes or speeding. And a question: when they bang on about common law, which time period are they talking about, because the meaning of the expression has changed over the centuries.
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surely it's "we have gone through"...
"where people have been allowed to do whatever they like." - false. You can't even smoke a joint without being treated like a child and told off by police for being a naughty boy.
If anyone watched the first season of coppers it tended to show the full interactions with the police so you could judge the situations much better and there was a huge case of over policing, but in this season channel 4 have seemed to have changed their style somewhat... weird eh?
at times this season... in every episode on the last.
What is Magna Carta?
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I can't believe I didn't know about something that happened 800 years ago
so in a similar vein, you've also never heard of the fire of london, battle of hastings, black death/bubonic plague?
BORING!
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I can't believe I didn't know about something that happened 800 years ago
Given it was/is one of the most important bits of history for the UK I'm amazed you didn't (it's certainly one of the handful of most important documents in British history).
Have the schools really gone that far down hill in the past 15 years?
I've never taken an interest in ancient history because I've never thought it would be too advantageous. Perhaps you could educate me or give me some history subjects to research that'll blow my mind and make me see the world differently
As far as schools go, I haven't taken a history class since year 9 as we were given the choice between it and geography, and that was a good 8 or 9 years ago.
Indeed!
Perhaps because it's illegal, and it's the job of the police to catch people who are breaking the law? Are you sure you're not trolling?
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Well, thank you for demonstrating what utter rubbish it is, thus saving me the time I might have spent looking into it.
If you're trolling, that's funny.
If you're not trolling, it's still funny but I'm laughing at you rather than with you. Maybe I shouldn't, but that's so utterly ludicrous that I can't help it. You're making a distinction between laws that does not exist unless you're going to argue that the only valid law is that enacted by royal decree prior to the establishment of parliament. You're then going on to attach one part of the fictitious division you've created to the navy, for no apparent reason other than a desire to pretend that two completely unconnected things are connected because they each have a word related to them that sounds the same. Two different words, with different spellings, different meanings, different etymologies. But they sound the same, therefore the law doesn't exist. Obviously.
I was reading about a conspiracy "theory" that contrails caused by jet engines on aircraft are mind-altering drugs from the secret conspiracy that rules the world. Because, of course, it would make perfect sense for them to dose everyone with their secret drugs in a secret conspiracy by getting hordes of people involved and doing it in a way everyone can see and which allows them no control over where the drugs go. Much more sensible than adding the secret drugs to the water supply.
That conspiracy "theory", an idea so stupidly ridiculous that even most conspiracy "theorists" think it's stupidly ridiculous, makes more sense than your argument.
Thats a great link, thanks.
It explained my biggest mis understanding - where they get this all from. And the answer turns out to be ... blacks law dictionary. Which they have somehow decided is some kind of ultimate definitive resource on what is and isn't law.
It's up to the individual to decide if a law is unjust. That doesn't mean that you can then flount that law without fear of reprisal, but it does mean you should act to have the law changed.
Personally I believe in living my life by what is right or wrong, rather than what is lawful or unlawful. In most cases the two coincide and all is good. I think it's wrong to kill someone or steal their stuff, and so does the law. I think it's wrong to drive at an unsafe speed, but to me, 90mph on the motorway, especially without much other traffic is not unsafe and therefore not wrong. My view differs from the law there, as it does where pot is concerned for example. (I haven't smoked pot in about 6 or 7 years by the way). Smoking weed is against the law, but it's not wrong, there is no moral reason not to and so i don't see why i shouldn't.
However, I am aware of what the laws in this country are, and that I am liable to get in trouble for doing things that break the law and i accept that, because I want to live here at the moment. I wonder which laws the Freemen would like to see upheld if someone harmed them in some way? Makes me think of the travellers on Dale Farm, who broke the law in one direction by building on land that they didn't have permission to build on and expected to be allowed to get away with it, then used the law in their defense to try and remain there without being evicted.
TL;DR
You might or might not agree with the law, and you might or might not obey the law, that is up to you. But while you live in the UK you are governed by the law. If you think a law is daft then break it, but you may have to face consequences. If you don't like it, work to change the law or go somewhere else.
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Freeman movement is growing and episodes like this only spread the word about it.
You should watch the dean clifford videos for some more recent information on the topic, although he is american it is still applicable.
It goes as far back as the petition of right, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petition_of_Right
The movement also says that the mercantile law and the jurisdiction of the courts is invalid, amongst other things.
You should watch the dean clifford videos for some more recent information on the topic, although he is american it is still applicable.
It goes as far back as the petition of right, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petition_of_Right
The movement also says that the mercantile law and the jurisdiction of the courts is invalid, amongst other things.
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