Horrific and Cruel or Science and Necessary Evolution?

I wouldn't advocate for the idea. Seems like too much like 'playing god' to me for a lack of better words. I don't like what this might pave the way forward for.

Edit - I may expand on this later, wasn't descriptive of my views.
 
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[Damien];21321875 said:
So long as you're happy spending £15 on a couple of chicken breasts.
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More than happy, meat is far, far too cheap at the moment. But the cost wouldn't increase by that much, as there would be more, bigger, farms producing free range than there is at the moment.

Are you one of those cheap tasteless people who buy cheap and tasteless meat?
 
This will be great. People will be able to eat meat without feeling guilty about mistreating an animal or any kind of death involved. It's great because they'll be able to further distance themselves from the problem rather than... stop using battery farms maybe... eat less meat maybe...?
 
godinman said:
Are you one of those cheap tasteless people who buy cheap and tasteless meat?
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No, we (or rather trix does) buy a fair bit of proper, butcher style meat. That being said, expecting people to buy that type of meat all the time and for everyone to boycott factory meat is at best, naive. I can't see generic freezer stuff like chicken fillets in breadcrumbs or turkey drummers etc having their manufacturers switching to free range meat.
 
[Damien];21321939 said:
No, we (or rather trix does) buy a fair bit of proper, butcher style meat. That being said, expecting people to buy that type of meat all the time and for everyone to boycott factory meat is at best, naive. I can't see generic freezer stuff like chicken fillets in breadcrumbs or turkey drummers etc having their manufacturers switching to free range meat.
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It wont be a case of manufacturers switching to free range, it will be a case of inhumane rearing of animals becoming illegal. There is already EU legislation for battery farms, making them use 'enriched' cages which are at least a little better than the old types.

In this day and age there is zero excuse for having battery farms, and I hope that they'll keep the pressure up and eventually ban them altogether.

Finally, tesco finest free range chicken breast - £14.78/kg. That's perfectly affordable, meat shouldn't be cheap.

That's all OT anyway I suppose. On topic, I would NOT like a zombie whore, you need to be able to make them feel shame else where's the fun?
 
A bizarre solution to a problem that should never have existed. There should never have been such a vast human population placing such huge demands for meat production.

I'll stick to my free range farmed chickens and eggs. I'd rather eat real food when I'm able to and eat vegetarian or some other alternative the rest of the time, rather than lots of dubiously farmed meat products.
 
[Damien];21322024 said:
You can. I had some nice ones the other day (fancy corn fed ones) and I could taste the difference between that and Tesco stuff.
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I can too, And some of the extreme cheaper stuff actually tastes revolting. When I started hitting the weights, I wanted protein protein protein. So I started buying the cheapest I could find. Never again
 
Stopped reading at the word "Philosopher". Anyone can argue a point to anything, yet he just does it for a living. Due to that, theres highly likely to be no facts, evidence or even chance of it ever happening, as its just simply an idea.
 
[Damien];21322024 said:
You can. I had some nice ones the other day (fancy corn fed ones) and I could taste the difference between that and Tesco stuff.
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Corn fed chickens are different.

I cannot taste the difference between the normal chicken breast, and the premium stuff, excluding corn feed.
 
Godinman - where do you propose all these bigger free range farms are located? What about in 50 years? 100 years? Also, the end result of free range is still the slaughter of a thinking, pain/fear feeling chicken (or insert other tasty animal).

These proposals, which imho are the inevitable future of meat production, are addressing both these concerns - the practical and the ethical.

So I'm all for it if it is done properly. I think the approach of taking the animal and working backwards is likely to be easier/quicker than efforts to start from scratch and grow meat artificially (the bacon thread). This way you can remove what is unneccessary and keep the skeleton, joints, muscle structure, digestive system for nutrition, etc, etc and by using electrical stimulation to work the muscles could feasibly produce meat as we know and love it with fat, nutritional value etc all included. Better than growing lumps of homogenous mush in vats.
 
Dr.EM said:
A bizarre solution to a problem that should never have existed. There should never have been such a vast human population placing such huge demands for meat production.
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exactly. or otherwise in the end we will be having a cerebral cortex removed to stop suffering just because people still wanted to squeeze out a few sprogs. chemical castration and birth licences 1 child per human pair. quality not quantity etc...
 
Food is food, you going to kill it if its a meat product. AS long as its not crulety for the sake of it then i don't mind. I think we should concentrate on humans first, lets stop being cruel to them and then lets think less about the fluffy bunnies.


Animals have a right to be tasty.;)
 
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