AMD FX6100 Reviewed!

[almighty151986]

6870 Crossfire here bottlenecked at 4.375GHZ

Hey Martin

That chip was a freak..... why you no sell to me

 

[gareth170]

Why would I compare it to an i5? The i5 is almost twice the price that I paid. When you're looking at what things should and shouldn't be compared to it's price bracket should be pretty much the only thing you should be considering

but go on what the prices are now without the offers..

AMD Bulldozer FX-6 Six Core 6100 £127.99
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-313-AM&groupid=701&catid=6&subcat=1942

Intel Core i5-2300 2.80GHz £149.99
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-363-IN&groupid=701&catid=6&subcat=1275

has u can see i5 is not twice the price, its only £22 difference

or a Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz £169.99 which is £42 difference
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-368-IN&groupid=701&catid=6&subcat=1275

not much in it on price if u look at it like this.

 

[Cyanide]

Seriously, Anyone that buy's a Dozer shouldn't be allowed near a computer.

You could maybe get a couple of Mhz out of the base clock.

Riiiight, so I'm the one who shouldn't be allowed near a computer yet your advise is to risk damaging every component in your rig?

SB has to be atleast 50% faster per-clock then BD, Maybe more...

~35% faster in single threaded applications... not 50%.

 

[Cyanide]

not much in it on price if u look at it like this.

Fair enough, with the offer (which personally I'd still take in to consideration as the cashback's been on for months and the prices will probably adjust when it ends) the price puts it half way between the i3 and entry level i5 which is pretty much where it sits performance wise.

 

[almighty151986]

Riiiight, so I'm the one who shouldn't be allowed near a computer yet your advise is to risk damaging every component in your rig?



~35% faster in single threaded applications... not 50%.

It's more then that, You give SB enough GPU power and it'll give you atleast 50% more frames over any bulldozer CPU with the same graphics cards.

 

[easyrider]

Just to clear things up

The FX 6100 is a crap cpu @ 127.99

Doesn't matter how you look at it.

Nice review though

 

[silent]

i have my FX4100 up and running and seems a nice chip for what i'll use it for. dreamweaver, surfing, mild gaming. not sure what to do to o/c it though, may just up the FSB. whats best?

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Just to clear things up

The FX 6100 is a crap cpu @ 127.99

Doesn't matter how you look at it.

Nice review though

The OP paid £93 for their CPU and the full price was £108 on OcUK(on offer) at the time he bought it. The CPU was around £120 full price on OcUK at time but has now gone up to £128. IMHO,the FX6100 should be around £100 or less normal price.

 

[gareth170]

The OP paid £93 for their CPU and the full price was £108 on OcUK(on offer) at the time he bought it. The CPU was around £120 full price on OcUK at time but has now gone up to £128. IMHO,the FX6100 should be around £100 or less normal price.

i understand what your getting at

but it's what the price is now what matters and without offers it brings it near to a I5 price

even with the cashback which makes it £113, a Intel Core i5-2300 2.80GHz is only £37 more and thats without TWO offer, also a Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz £169.99 which is just £57 more and thats without TWO offer

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I get what you are saying too regarding current pricing. Having said that I went for a Core i3 2100 and an SSD over a Core i5 2500 so £60 or thereabouts is still a reasonable chunk of dosh. From what I gather the FX6200 is around the same RRP and is starting to enter retail. It is basically a 500MHZ speed bump over the FX6100 but with a higher TDP(meh). If anything maybe AMD should be bumping down the FX8120 price IMHO,especially now with the TDP being much lower(or will be soon).

 

[Gashman]

yeah same story for me, this one worked out ~£128 or so and it seems a good chip for the money, at £128 its cheaper than both the 2500/2500K and the older Phenom II X6 processors yet performance is rather good for the market it would be in at that price. perform more like Nehalem based processors than Sandy Bridge ones, just goes to show how much the delays cost, if it had of been released on schedule to lock horns with Nehalem, these stupid debates wouldn't be happening, especially the current Intel crowd 'high ground' because Bulldozer power consumption is no worse than Nehalem was and never heard mountains of complaint about that. but alas history is far too full of 'what ifs' to dwell on such things, there are people who are starting to accept that Bulldozer is a viable alternative to 'going Intel' but then there are some who are sticking to their guns, which is fair enough.

Edit: also the 6200 is coming out at closer to the 'design' clock speed, so should perform reasonably well, if it is priced like the current 6100 it should be considered a genuine alternative to the 25** series of Intel processors.

 

[Zeed]

Cyanide You can overclock i3 .... using BUS not much but still !!!

 

[Cooper]

yeah same story for me, this one worked out ~£128 or so and it seems a good chip for the money, at £128 its cheaper than both the 2500/2500K and the older Phenom II X6 processors yet performance is rather good for the market it would be in at that price. perform more like Nehalem based processors than Sandy Bridge ones, just goes to show how much the delays cost, if it had of been released on schedule to lock horns with Nehalem, these stupid debates wouldn't be happening, especially the current Intel crowd 'high ground' because Bulldozer power consumption is no worse than Nehalem was and never heard mountains of complaint about that. but alas history is far too full of 'what ifs' to dwell on such things, there are people who are starting to accept that Bulldozer is a viable alternative to 'going Intel' but then there are some who are sticking to their guns, which is fair enough.

Edit: also the 6200 is coming out at closer to the 'design' clock speed, so should perform reasonably well, if it is priced like the current 6100 it should be considered a genuine alternative to the 25** series of Intel processors.

lolz..you just don't give up do you.

 

[Cooper]

~35% faster in single threaded applications... not 50%.

Try a 2500k on PCSX2, and you'll find it is close to a 50% faster IPC than the Derpdozers.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I thought emulator discussion was not allowed on OcUK due to the dodgy legal ground its based on:

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18281828

"Emulation

OcUK does not allow or condone talk of emulation, due to a number of reasons:

1. ROMS are for the most part illegal (or at LEAST in a gray area), this is due to a number of factors. While your Sega Mega Drive (Genesis if you're from outside of Europe) games may not seem able to turn a profit, remember that Sega are themselves still selling the games (therefore making profit, therefore not happy if you don't buy their products and download them). Examples including xbox arcade games, and the Sega Collections.

2. Emulators (the pieces of software required to play the games). Firstly, some require console bios' to function. To get that legally you'd have to dump your OWN console bios, which let's face it, 99.9 percent of people aren't going to do. And then in Europe (thanks to our slightly different laws on copyright compared to the US) it's a gray area. Secondly, some emulation is becoming copyrighted (Nintendo are themselves copy-writing emulators). Don't believe how they feel and think we're making it up? Read HERE: http://www.nintendo.com/corp/legal.jsp#roms

I personally know of shops who've been legally threatened because they've IMPORTED games to sell, let alone dealing with emulation. I also know of someone else who has been sued because of selling something to help play homebrew games.

OcUK's stance shall not change on this unless the law does. Please cease any discussion of Emulation, whether this is emulation of a 'modern' console such as a PS2, or an older console such as a Master System.

This sticky will be updated with more links soon, but for now consider this a warning. *NOTE* This also includes fan made remakes. Unless they've the blessing of the original developer."

A don could shut this thread or start modifying it if emulators are discussed.

Better(and legal) examples to illustrate your point are games like SC2 and WoW where more powerful cores or threads are useful. OTH,there are games like Rage which are examples where more threads are useful even if they are slower.

 

[Cooper]

I thought emulator discussion was not allowed on OcUK

It wasn't a discussion, it was a statement of fact....

..if you want to enforce forum rules that weren't even broken, apply to be a mod, until then, don't presume to tell others what they can and cant post..

 

[Curio]

If somebody went and bought a BD because they liked the pretty box it comes in then I could understand some of the teeth gnashing. However, the sort of person who posts on here has almost certainly done the research, knows all the numbers, the arguments, but they still want it anyway. What's the problem? It's not like a BD doesn't actually work or anything - I bet in a blind test 99% of people wouldn't even be able to tell if it was a BD or an equivalent Intel running.

If I was buying a 2nd PC I think I would totally go for AMD right now. I love my i3, but I like that AMD are trying something new with their architecture and would enjoy the feeling of "supporting" them. We all know the competition between the two companies is essential.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

It wasn't a discussion, it was a statement of fact....

..if you want to enforce forum rules that weren't even broken, apply to be a mod, until then, don't presume to tell others what they can and cant post..

OcUK does not allow or condone talk of emulation, due to a number of reasons:

2. Emulators (the pieces of software required to play the games).

OcUK's stance shall not change on this unless the law does. Please cease any discussion of Emulation, whether this is emulation of a 'modern' console such as a PS2, or an older console such as a Master System.

It specifically says not to talk about emulation software(point 2 in post75) and moreover with so many examples to show how faster cores are important,ie,SC2 and WoW, you choose the one which IS dodgy legal ground. IIRC,games like The Witcher and Skyrim also prefer faster cores too.

I know why you are doing this though.

Conculsion

Is it a top gaming chip? No.
Is it a top encoding/workhorse chip? No.
Is it good on a budget? Yes.

Single threaded performance aside (because it's truely awful!)

That is from the OP which you CBA to read(they even stated it was purchased at a lower than normal price of £93). At least the OP bothered to put a few benchmarks up at stock and overclocked,irrespective if you would ever buy the CPU in a million years or not.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

** Quote removed - Please ignore him rather than fall for the bait **

Conculsion

Is it a top gaming chip? No.
Is it a top encoding/workhorse chip? No.
Is it good on a budget? Yes.

Single threaded performance aside (because it's truely awful!)[/QUOTE]

 

[Martini1991]

Guess at 93 quid it's not a bad option..
Would rather a Thuban though.