Hi There I,m very puzzled about the new fibre optic broadband service i have read that BT uses the FTTC which means you get fibre cable from the exchange to the cabinet or green box in the road and then a copper cable from that to your house .where as Virgin use fibre from the exchange to your house , what puzzles me is why isn,t this a standard service in the whole of the uk ?
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Virgin Media is fibre to the "cabinet" as well (essentially). It's fibre up to the manhole, then coaxial to the premises. It can't all just be installed at the click of your fingers.
FTTP which is coming from BT soon in some areas will be fibre to the premises.
FTTP which is coming from BT soon in some areas will be fibre to the premises.
oh thanks ..so is the the new BT Infinity 100meg service there rolling out over the next months ?
oh right thanks and when will that be happening ?
currently 40/10.
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Wrong, Plusnet installed at one of my properties yesterday and it's the 80/20 pack. BT has said there is plns to come back and up the copper to fiber next year ready for 300+
Hi There yes i have spoken to a tech guy from BT and he told me that they are now upgrading there service to 80/20 on the fibre network and mines due anytime from April to December
but by 2013 most on fibre will be a standard 80/20The cost to roll it out!
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Hi There yes i have spoken to a tech guy from BT and he told me that they are now upgrading there service to 80/20 on the fibre network and mines due anytime from April to December
Nah nah nah.
BT is now well into the trials of 80/20 but a few places that yet even to go live on fiber at all are getting 80/20 as have i at my other gaff.
The goverment has said sort it as we suck more than that dead 4ft tall thing when it comes to speed of our net!
So BT is going to pull the copper from CAB to your gaff and replace with fiber giving FTTP as to FTTC. FTTC has already been tested to 100 mb+, FTTP will give clear way for the 300 the gov are pushing on and for with the 6 billion they giving away!
When chatting to the gezza doing mine he said it's early jan next year on this site for them to do the exchange of copper to fiber.
Guess price of copper will drop as BT will be selling it to reclaim costs of fiber and enginers to join it
yeah i guess BT has to start to push for higher and better fibre now Sky is joining the fibre band wagon !
as Sky is updating its network ready to roll it out and i,m guessing will update to 100meg once they are ready I am trying to get BT Infinity at my place, but we have a House that is converted to a flat, I am on the first floor at the rear.
I see that BT can do a cable for 30ft from where the line goes in.
Questions:
How visible is the line that goes in from the outside, and do they have to directly connect this to something the other side of the wall on the inside? Or do they just use your phoneline for the last part of the connection ?
I see that BT can do a cable for 30ft from where the line goes in.
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How visible is the line that goes in from the outside, and do they have to directly connect this to something the other side of the wall on the inside? Or do they just use your phoneline for the last part of the connection ?
80/20 is for trialists only. The majority of people have 40/2 or 40/10. No chance of them replacing the copper with fibre any time soon.
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Ive just had 80/20 go live today with plusnet. 4 lads in the wearhouse have 80/20 all from word go, no 40/10. There already iplermenting fiber on the new builds and on the new house ive bought. Thats fiber all the way in and up
BT have announced that they intend to offer a FTTP on Demand service for areas that are FTTC enabled from next year.
This service will entail the pulling of fibre from the street CAB that provides the FTTC hook up. But you will have to pay BT OpenReach for the cost of the fibre pull and the Fibre cable.
I think that this is a good offering and IF the cost is not too prohibitive then i think that there will be a good take-up of this service. BUT this is what BT OpenReach are in the process of finalising. Now if they offer to spread the cost of install over say the life of the contract then I can't see it being a bad thing. I mean I am up for a little bit of 300Mb connection speeds LoL if the price is right
This service will entail the pulling of fibre from the street CAB that provides the FTTC hook up. But you will have to pay BT OpenReach for the cost of the fibre pull and the Fibre cable.
I think that this is a good offering and IF the cost is not too prohibitive then i think that there will be a good take-up of this service. BUT this is what BT OpenReach are in the process of finalising. Now if they offer to spread the cost of install over say the life of the contract then I can't see it being a bad thing. I mean I am up for a little bit of 300Mb connection speeds LoL if the price is right
BT have announced that they intend to offer a FTTP on Demand service for areas that are FTTC enabled from next year.
This service will entail the pulling of fibre from the street CAB that provides the FTTC hook up. But you will have to pay BT OpenReach for the cost of the fibre pull and the Fibre cable.
I think that this is a good offering and IF the cost is not too prohibitive then i think that there will be a good take-up of this service. BUT this is what BT OpenReach are in the process of finalising. Now if they offer to spread the cost of install over say the life of the contract then I can't see it being a bad thing. I mean I am up for a little bit of 300Mb connection speeds LoL if the price is right
that in my view is a vote winner over Virgin Media
as its a future plan ,a lot of people run BT down ,but you have to remember they made things possible for the likes of VM and Sky I think that this is a better plan than trying to offer a full FTTP network. This allows the customer to decide which they want.
The On Demand FTTP service is or has being tested at a few locations. The great thing is about this is that BT are upgrading as fast as possible most areas to FTTC has they have kept saying. I know that lots of people keep checking to find out when there exchange and cab is going to be done, but with the amount of CAB's that need installing, which is not as simple as it sounds. This job alone can be a real pain in the rear. OK they don't need planning permission for the CABS BUT they do have to get the ground work plans approved by local planning and the permission to dig the road or pavement up to route new feed cables between existing Phone cabs and the NEW FTTC CABs as well as power into the FTTC cab, the gear wont work without power.
Its all the above with the local council that is the part thats taking the time to get in place. But then they have to organise crews to do the work, and install the cabs and then wire them up. I watched 2 guys wire a new cab up with the new connections from the POTS (Phone Box) to the new FTTC box they had 4 cables with 128 pairs of wires to connect. Now that's not a 5 min job. Then they have the Fibre guy's that have to connect the fibre cable to the termination block is the Cab. This is a delicate process that has to be done with some real delicate stuff and it has to be perfectly aligned otherwise it will not work.
So yes knowing what's involved to get these services its no wonder that there has been set backs. Our own exchange was enabled in September last year 5 months after it was supposed to be, and that meant our cab was not enabled until December 4 months after the original date. This was all because the trunk that was going to be used for the fibre had to be replace with new due to a collapse hence a 4 month delay while getting the needed permission to do the work.
The On Demand FTTP service is or has being tested at a few locations. The great thing is about this is that BT are upgrading as fast as possible most areas to FTTC has they have kept saying. I know that lots of people keep checking to find out when there exchange and cab is going to be done, but with the amount of CAB's that need installing, which is not as simple as it sounds. This job alone can be a real pain in the rear. OK they don't need planning permission for the CABS BUT they do have to get the ground work plans approved by local planning and the permission to dig the road or pavement up to route new feed cables between existing Phone cabs and the NEW FTTC CABs as well as power into the FTTC cab, the gear wont work without power.
Its all the above with the local council that is the part thats taking the time to get in place. But then they have to organise crews to do the work, and install the cabs and then wire them up. I watched 2 guys wire a new cab up with the new connections from the POTS (Phone Box) to the new FTTC box they had 4 cables with 128 pairs of wires to connect. Now that's not a 5 min job. Then they have the Fibre guy's that have to connect the fibre cable to the termination block is the Cab. This is a delicate process that has to be done with some real delicate stuff and it has to be perfectly aligned otherwise it will not work.
So yes knowing what's involved to get these services its no wonder that there has been set backs. Our own exchange was enabled in September last year 5 months after it was supposed to be, and that meant our cab was not enabled until December 4 months after the original date. This was all because the trunk that was going to be used for the fibre had to be replace with new due to a collapse hence a 4 month delay while getting the needed permission to do the work.
great post ! and agree with every wordI think that this is a better plan than trying to offer a full FTTP network. This allows the customer to decide which they want.
The On Demand FTTP service is or has being tested at a few locations. The great thing is about this is that BT are upgrading as fast as possible most areas to FTTC has they have kept saying. I know that lots of people keep checking to find out when there exchange and cab is going to be done, but with the amount of CAB's that need installing, which is not as simple as it sounds. This job alone can be a real pain in the rear. OK they don't need planning permission for the CABS BUT they do have to get the ground work plans approved by local planning and the permission to dig the road or pavement up to route new feed cables between existing Phone cabs and the NEW FTTC CABs as well as power into the FTTC cab, the gear wont work without power.
Its all the above with the local council that is the part thats taking the time to get in place. But then they have to organise crews to do the work, and install the cabs and then wire them up. I watched 2 guys wire a new cab up with the new connections from the POTS (Phone Box) to the new FTTC box they had 4 cables with 128 pairs of wires to connect. Now that's not a 5 min job. Then they have the Fibre guy's that have to connect the fibre cable to the termination block is the Cab. This is a delicate process that has to be done with some real delicate stuff and it has to be perfectly aligned otherwise it will not work.
So yes knowing what's involved to get these services its no wonder that there has been set backs. Our own exchange was enabled in September last year 5 months after it was supposed to be, and that meant our cab was not enabled until December 4 months after the original date. This was all because the trunk that was going to be used for the fibre had to be replace with new due to a collapse hence a 4 month delay while getting the needed permission to do the work.
i know your right as my brother use to work for BT as T1 Engineer fault finding type work when he started in the 70,s when it was British Post Office he retired after 40 years service ! So yes people should reconise the hard work that goes into updating an old infastructure to meet the modern demands well done BT !!Let's see BT IP profile, Plusnet profile & cost. A large new build housing estate might get FTTP but most of us will be stuck with copper for many years.