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[[TW]Fox]

Plenty of cars can stop from 70 in 2 seconds. Granted not most office commutes, but you can't say NO car.

Which cars will stop from 70 in 2 seconds? Don't even bother mentioning supercars, as you are implying it's reasonably common to find a car with such braking performance.

Just to give you an idea, even an E46 BMW M3 takes 2.6 seconds - not 2 seconds - to brake from 60mph, let alone 70mph.

Here are some more figures for you to consider in your reply. Remember, this are from 60mph and NOT 70mph.

Aston Martin V12 Vanquish: 2.9 seconds
Porsche 911 GT3: 2.6 seconds.

Infact hang on, there simply isn't any point finding any more - if even a 911 GT3 won't brake from 70 to 0 in '2 seconds' I think its fairly safe to say you are talking absolute rubbish.

To give you an idea of just how much more of a big deal stopping from 70 in 2 seconds would be, a Skoda Fabia 1.4 will brake from 60mph in 3.2 seconds. Consider the difference in braking ability between a Skoda Fabia and a 911 GT3 and you'll see just how ridiculous the idea that 'many' cars brake from 70 in 2 seconds really is.

 

[sigma]

Plenty of cars can stop from 70 in 2 seconds. Granted not most office commutes, but you can't say NO car.

Lols

 

[Haggisman]

Plenty of cars can stop from 70 in 2 seconds. Granted not most office commutes, but you can't say NO car.

Even an alert and prepared driver can take ~1 sec to react, so cut that braking time down to 1.5 sec max. A lot less if the driver isn't prepared for it.

 

[Lustral]

What time did it take place?

I was going the other way at around 9am and traffic was very heavy so I guess it was as a result of people slowing down to observe.

just before 8AM this morning , i actually left earlier that i usually do to beat the traffic anyways and to avoid the horrid roadworks on the eastern side of Portsmouth.

 

[Jonnycoupe]

Plenty of cars can stop from 70 in 2 seconds. Granted not most office commutes, but you can't say NO car.

The real problem here is people understanding of stopping a car....

You seem to have ignore reaction time, which even on a good day accounts for 25% of the time to stop..... ie 1/2 second before you even press the brakes, let alone ramp up to full pressure.

This ramping is the exact reason brake assist features are appearing on cars, people dont press hard enough to start with compared to even a paper stats.

 

[Janesy B]

Plenty of cars can stop from 70 in 2 seconds. Granted not most office commutes, but you can't say NO car.

Totally acknowledge the "including reaction time" though, include that it's it's anyones game. Especially first thing in the morning whilst people are too busy doing their makeup or having a shave, reading a paper, or filling in paperwork @ 70mph in lane 3...

 

[Lustral]

JackRegan, I think it's more that the 2 second rule puts '1.5-2 car lengths' into context in terms of just how stupid that is.

On the other hand you're right that gap filling is annoying and unavoidable. IMO tailgating and gap filling should be subject to on the spot fines.

I wonder how the police / traffic officers will enforce this.

 

[Liampope]

Lol, in a thread about driving on a motorway, I didn't think my 'no car will stop' post needed the 'possibly not including an F1 car' disclaimer that I was considering. Sigh...

Would be interesting to know if even an F1 car could including an average reaction and pedal push time.

 

[Scania]

People know that most modern cars will stop from 60 - 70 MPH relatively quickly, alas, they generally forget that the HGV's behind won't....

 

[RossDagley]

Which cars will stop from 70 in 2 seconds? Don't even bother mentioning supercars, as you are implying it's reasonably common to find a car with such braking performance.

Just to give you an idea, even an E46 BMW M3 takes 2.6 seconds - not 2 seconds - to brake from 60mph, let alone 70mph.

Here are some more figures for you to consider in your reply. Remember, this are from 60mph and NOT 70mph.

Aston Martin V12 Vanquish: 2.9 seconds
Porsche 911 GT3: 2.6 seconds.

Infact hang on, there simply isn't any point finding any more - if even a 911 GT3 won't brake from 70 to 0 in '2 seconds' I think its fairly safe to say you are talking absolute rubbish.

To give you an idea of just how much more of a big deal stopping from 70 in 2 seconds would be, a Skoda Fabia 1.4 will brake from 60mph in 3.2 seconds. Consider the difference in braking ability between a Skoda Fabia and a 911 GT3 and you'll see just how ridiculous the idea that 'many' cars brake from 70 in 2 seconds really is.

Forgive me for I have sinned... I made some presumptions regarding stopping times on the basis I know many cars that do 100-0 in mid 4s and the leap from 100-0 from 70-0 is vast.

 

[Janesy B]

Forgive me for I have sinned... I made some presumptions regarding stopping times on the basis I know many cars that do 100-0 in mid 4s and the leap from 100-0 from 70-0 is vast.

An Ultima GTR takes 3.6 seconds to go from 100 to 0, this is a car that holds the 0-100-0 record. No car on the road is going to be stopping from 70 in 2 seconds unless it's crashing into a tree.

 

[Django x2]

There was about 5 of us in the fast lane.

I think this is where you're going wrong. What lane is the fast lane please?

 

[peterattheboro]

I think we can all safely ignore RossDagley. This guy reckons the Focus ST isn't quick.

 

[OpenToSuggestions]

I think lucky to not be swapping insurance details is a tad more accurate than 'lucky to be alive'.

This to be honest.
You had a bumhole twitching moment but you didn't nearly die.

I hope you learnt that tailgating is bad .

 

[RossDagley]

I think we can all safely ignore RossDagley. This guy reckons the Focus ST isn't quick.

It isn't. Did I miss something?

 

[[TW]Fox]

It isn't. Did I miss something?

It isn't in your imaginary made up world where many cars do 70 to 0 in 2 seconds, no.

 

[ubersonic]

I can't remember the last time you shared an opinion that didnt result in an actual facepalm. I mean.. seriously?

Its quite comical that you quoted part of what I said to try and ridicule it out of context yet actually managed to make it look more correct than it was, you sir deserve the facepalm ^^

 

[Liampope]

An Ultima GTR takes 3.6 seconds to go from 100 to 0, this is a car that holds the 0-100-0 record. No car on the road is going to be stopping from 70 in 2 seconds unless it's crashing into a tree.

Even then I should imagine a number of parts of the car would not stop in 2 seconds.

 

[RossDagley]

It isn't in your imaginary made up world where many cars do 70 to 0 in 2 seconds, no.

you've clearly never been out in a genuinely "quick" car then... Humour me. What would you consider quick?

Genuinely quick is GT3RS. A modified 500hp Evo X. modified 600bhp RS6. New GTR skyline. That sort of car.

Pretty quick is GT2's, most astons, SL55's, M3's. That kind of thing.

"Brisk" is Focus ST, Curpa R. They ain't "quick" by a long stretch.

Genuinely quick cars eat 600cc bikes for breakfast, challenge 750's and hold onto litre bikes.

 

[ubersonic]

And if it weighs less and has great brakes and you're the one driving a heavy car with rubbish brakes, then it's grossly deficient. It's a good guideline, especially as most drivers are far too thick to have a clue what a safe stopping distance is or even consider that such a thing exists.

Erm, that was kind of implied by what I said, obviously if your car is a piece of you know what then its a good idea to keep a safe distance but if it isn't you can follow the car in front at less than 2 seconds and you will be fine, its totally dependant on the cars in question and people should be able to use their own judgement.