game in serious trouble?

I disagree, apart from the comment about them margins on used items.

There are massive overheads which eat into any profit.

Lets be honest, if the business model was sound, would they be in administration?

GAME's model is little different to GameStop in the US who turn a decent profit.

The difference is that Game Group bought out the competition, Gamestation, in 2007. When the credit crunch hit and we lost many high-street stores, this should have been a warning to them to shut down Gamestation and start making cuts. Had they done so, they wouldnt have the level f debt they do now.

Bad Management is what killed Game.
 
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The model of selling packaged media isn't flawed but the model of multiple shops within few hundred yards is. We are not the customer base, so the fact we don't buy there isn't relevant. They made 90m 2 years ago despite the existence of play.com...

Administration doesn't mean the entire model is flawed, Saab went into administration, are you saying the model of manufacturing cars is not sound?

Can I buy a SAAB over the internet?
 
Can I buy a SAAB over the internet?
I wouldn't download a car!!! Piracy! :eek:

Last time I went into Game was to buy Quake 2 at launch, I think the sales guy thanked me for not pirating it :)
I was quite excited about playing the game and that was probably worth whatever the launch price was, but I don't get that same thrill now so I just wait and buy it from Steam.

I can't be fagged to keep game boxes everywhere and I keep losing the game discs which is why I can't play GTA IV any more :(
So I'm just going to stick to Steam, easier, faster, less hassle.

Maybe for kids without debit cards retail stores hold some relevance? At the time I really liked having a box and a manual and the feeling that I was playing the latest thing, it would be a shame for other kids to miss out on that.
 
Last time I went into Game was to buy Quake 2 at launch

I went to Dixons to get Quake III and remember being so ****** off that it required a 3d accelerator and had no software capability (most people didn't have a 3d accelerator in those days, even games like UT2004 made half a decade later didn't actually require one).

Like you said though steam ***, its cheaper than any high street store, and lets you install your game on any machine without finding/storing discs.
 
like the majority of retail outlets game have realised (if a tad late compared to some) that highstreet stores where a dying breed.

for an example just take the purple shirt loons, i used to work there before there started to role different brands in to one, they had at one point 3 high street brands as well as the old purple shirt out of town stores. they started to close shops down on the high street in smaller towns in 2005 to save money.

then a couple of years ago they really went to town and started to try and rebrand and close even more stores, so much so my local town (be it a dump of a northern town) went from 3 to just one store. while at the same time expanding there internet business.

game on the other hand had some bizzare quest to have hundreds of stores and be the only high street video games retailor, they should have worked out when gamestation hit the wall and then hmv a couple of years ago started to have trouble that they couldnt carry on with 300+ stores dotted around in small towns and should have pulled them then and just kept running with specific large stores as well as expanded there online store.

i had a similar conversation with some marketing money when i worked at the purple shirt store and they said (in 2003) that chief execs would be the death of most high street companys because they just couldnt get the idea of a bricks and mortar shop out of there heads.

i guess its sad to see game going this way and hopefully someone will either pick they up or new localy run specialist stores will be able to take up some of the slack but i fear high street gaming stores outside of large towns are pritty much dead.
 
Can I buy a SAAB over the internet?

Wow, really? You honestly didn’t get my point?

You claimed that administration is evidence of a failed business plan. It's not. It can be, but more often its evidence of mismanagement of an otherwise sound business plan. Hence the Saab example. Manufacturing premium saloon cars is not a failed business model. Infact it's a very sound and very profitable business model. But despite 'the manufacture of premium saloon cars' being the Saab business plan they still went into administration - because of mismanagement and brand issues.

So you are wrong to cite administration as evidence for your claim that it’s a flawed business model.

The issue almost everyone in this thread seems to miss is that you and me are not the target market for this sort of shop. They don't appeal to us because we just don’t shop like that. We've moved on. I don't buy games from Game either. I buy them online. But we are not the entire market - plenty of people would rather buy offline. I walked past a Thomas Cook at the weekend and it was crammed full of people paying a small fortune for a holiday they could have booked in 15 minutes on the internet for half the price. But they still do it.

This doesn't mean the internet isn't a threat - of course it is. 20 years ago you and me WOULD have bought from someone like Game because where else would we buy from? But it isn't a new threadt It's been there for years. Were there no internet shops in 2009 when Game Group posted profits of almost £100m? Of course there were. The internet has been an issue for high street retail for over 10 years. The emerging popularity of services like Steam is an emerging threat - but it's not yet serious enough to kill retail, 70% of media like this is still sold as packaged products. Steam has taken huge chunks of the PC gaming market but then the PC Gaming market hasn't been useful to retail for years anyway.

What has gone wrong is poor management and inflexibility. As I said previously back in the early 2000's the highstreet was FULL of places to buy Games. An independent Gamestation, HMV with a much bigger presence, Woolworths, even WH Smiths sold Games. If you didn't have a GAME at one end of town the customers would just go over the road to Woolworths. It made sense to have a huge presence. Now, however, this isn't the case. Woolworths have gone. WH Smith don’t sell Games. HMV are clinging on. The market is almost devoid of any real high street competition. You don't NEED 3 stores in a town now. If there isn't a GAME at one end of town the customer will now walk to the GAME at the other end. Therefore where in the past multiple stores captured custom from others, now all it does is drain cash from the business and massively increase overheads.

And huge overheads in a business with low margins = administration.

GAMES misfortune is caused by it's policy of massive expansion in a market that required rationalisation.

What I would imagine will happen now is a new company will emerge from the ashes - perhaps with backing or as part of somebody like Gamestop, which will see GAME remain on the high street but with a far more rational store portfolio.
 
Retail buissnesses fail when they can't stay ahead of the competition. Any retailer whose primary objective is anything other than getting and keeping customers and offering outstanding customer service is doomed to fail.
 
I mentioned this in the thread in the games section but I'll post it again here:

The shareholders are being screwed over here by the declaration by the board that the company has zero equity. Especially when you consider this:

'A source close to Comet owner OpCapita has revealed to MCV that a deal to takeover GAME is now very unlikely. GAME this morning filed for administration and is understood to be preparing to re-launch in a slimmed-down guise under an amended management team. That’s despite the fact that OpCapita had, as revealed by MCV, tabled a bid that would have eradicated all of GAME’s debts and preserved the business as an on-going concern. “They put together a fully-funded proposal,” our source stated. “They had the money lined up. They’d done due-diligence, and met the company and the banks. It was ready to go. “They wanted to operate GAME as a viable business. They’d re-established relationships with suppliers – and they had their support. So it’s slightly strange. The question for the banks now is are they going to pay the suppliers or is this all about the banks not being prepared to take a write-down of their debt?” Our source added that a deal is still a possibility if talks can be re-established during the current ten-day moratorium period, but admitted this is looking “unlikely”. However, OpCapita’s original offer was for a pre-administration GAME. Any possible new deal would depend not only on the shape of the company that emerges from the other end of the process, but also the banks’ willingness to re-enter negotiations. An official OpCapita statement issued to MCV said: “We put forward a fully funded proposal which would have preserved GAME as a viable business in partnership with suppliers who have been very supportive.”
 
Anyone else find it odd that the internet was originally the best/most popular place to buy/order PC games and then high street stores joined in and now its returning to the days of on-line ordering.
 
No, because that was never the case. The high street was place to buy pc games until the internet took over and has declined ever since.

When I started there in 2001 there was more space for pc than any other format. It began to decline from around 2002.
 
I'm pretty sure there is only on GAME in the city centre now right? There were two in Eldon Square but I thought they closed one down a while ago.

nope they are still there and fenwicks has one on the top floor which is still technicly inside eldon square :D
LOOK HOW CLOSE THESE 3 GAME STORES ARE LMFAO AND THEY WONDER THEY THEY ARE HAVING PROBLEMS........
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gamestation is a few streets away oposite mcdonalds down near wilkos/bigmarket area
 
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and then in between the 3 games and game station there is granger games where they sell more games and for cheaper

well done game. well done.
 
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