Big Red Button

[Castiel]

Rubbish. The button offers a risk free death. Whereas even bullets to the head can potentially ricochet from the skull or lead to nothing more than brain-damage.

There are a myriad of ways to guarantee death in relatively painless ways...some are reputed to be even enjoyable to some degree.

The fear lies in the process rather than the outcome and in this regard pressing a button is no different to squeezing a trigger or pushing a syringe.......

 

[Van Hellseek]

I disagree. Pressing a button to instantly die involves fear.

It may, but a lot less so if you know for sure there is no risk of failure or a permanent vegetative state, unlike most other popular forms of suicide.

 

[Robbo]

It may, but a lot less so if you know for sure there is no risk of failure or a permanent vegetative state, unlike most other popular forms of suicide.

Again, I don't think the fear level is a 'lot less'. It's all similar, as Castiel has said above.

 

[Van Hellseek]

There are a myriad of ways to guarantee death in relatively painless ways...some are reputed to be even enjoyable to some degree.

The fear lies in the process rather than the outcome and in this regard pressing a button is no different to squeezing a trigger or pushing a syringe.......

Regardless, I dare to assume most of people would be unable to resist the button at some point between the age of 20-30. Because they experience too much emotional turmoil. Wether alcohol-fuelled or not...

 

[Robbo]

Regardless, I dare to assume most of people would be unable to resist the button at some point between the age of 20-30. Because they experience too much emotional turmoil. Wether alcohol-fuelled or not...

I very much disagree, as I said originally if people really wanted to die, they would have done it. Fear of possible failure won't stop them.

 

[Efour]

umm probably every hormonal teenager at some point thinks no one loves them and everyone hates them etc..

 

[Castiel]

It may, but a lot less so if you know for sure there is no risk of failure or a permanent vegetative state, unlike most other popular forms of suicide.

By which mechanism does the button guarantee a painfree death?

How is it different from leaping from a skyscraper, decapitation with a guillotine, huge overdose of barbituates and so on........

If you have accepted and overcome the psychological hurdles inherrent in making that final decision the neccessity of a red button is largely meaningless.....in some cases it would act as a deterent in itself, due to its simplicity and lack of elegance and/or ignominy.

 

[steve45]

I can never understand how having the balls to take your own life can be described as cowardly.

because its the easy way out it takes balls to face up to your problems and over come them instead of letting then take over your life.

 

[Things change I've changed]

The fear lies in the process rather than the outcome and in this regard pressing a button is no different to squeezing a trigger or pushing a syringe.......

Massive difference, of all the people on these forum you surprise me having this opinion tbh, I agree that process plays a very big part but even shooting yourself in the head has a process and requires you to go through it, obviously shooting yourself is one of the quickest and easiest methods if you have a firearm handy, which is also probably the reason that it's still one of the most popular suicide methods in society today, make that process even shorter by making it just a press of the button and it would take the top spot and I can assure you suicide rates would go up.

 

[Castiel]

Regardless, I dare to assume most of people would be unable to resist the button at some point between the age of 20-30. Because they experience too much emotional turmoil. Wether alcohol-fuelled or not...

I doubt that. The self-preservation instinct is surprisingly strong, especially in the young.....you may think you want to die, but that is usually an over-reaction to the situation and is akin to saying 'I'm going to kill him' in response to a percieved wrong whereby the individual may consider such a thing but have no real intention of actually doing it.

 

[bitslice]

I always find these threads annoying, they highlight the massive differences in perception between people who have been depressed and understand acutely what it feels like, and people who skip through life but still think they are qualified to comment on what other people should think or feel.

 

[Threepwood]

^^ the same ammount would bottle out as do now I rekkon.

Dont see the difference either. Although, with the red button being gaurenteed death that might put people off more, I mean there are plenty of people who go through the motions of certian types of scuicide and are not succsessful, can ring 999 half way though after changing thier mind, ringing a friend, whatever, found by dad hanging there.

But no, big red button is a cert.


Anyway, jumping off a very high thing is pretty gaurenteed, probably painless and at least its a great ride on the way down! ( thats my big red button )

 

[Castiel]

Massive difference, of all the people on these forum you surprise me having this opinion tbh, I agree that process plays a very big part but even shooting yourself in the head has a process and requires you to go through it, obviously shooting yourself is one of the quickest and easiest methods if you have a firearm handy, which is also probably the reason that it's still one of the most popular suicide methods in society today, make that process even shorter by making it just a press of the button and it would take the top spot and I can assure you suicide rates would go up.

I disagree....many people who really truthfully consider suicide are more inclined to be quite elaborate and considered about it, often taking considerable time, planning and effort in the process, method and placement of the act.....

 

[Castiel]

I always find these threads annoying, they highlight the massive differences in perception between people who have been depressed and understand acutely what it feels like, and people who skip through life but still think they are qualified to comment on what other people should think or feel.

I can assure you that I speak from experience of a deep acute depression rather than 'skipping through life'....

 

[Robbo]

I disagree....many people who really truthfully consider suicide are more inclined to be quite elaborate and considered about it, often taking considerable time, planning and effort in the process, method and placement of the act.....

Exactly.

I think some people are implying that a teen in a strop would press this button. That is just ridiculous, they wouldn't. No chance.

 

[Van Hellseek]

I always find these threads annoying, they highlight the massive differences in perception between people who have been depressed and understand acutely what it feels like, and people who skip through life but still think they are qualified to comment on what other people should think or feel.

My friend you are the voice of hypocrisy.

 

[Gammawolf]

I had a button like this in my house in the states, we moved in and i didn't know what it did. So i pressed it and nearly died. The whole house went into lock down and started screaming the walls down. I had pressed the manual activation of the house alarm system.

 

[Things change I've changed]

I disagree....many people who really truthfully consider suicide are more inclined to be quite elaborate and considered about it, often taking considerable time, planning and effort in the process, method and placement of the act.....

This is true, but the process and all the variable's involved imo still acts as a deterrent for many, it can't just be a coincidence that shooting yourself, one of the easiest and quickest ways to kill yourself is the most popular, there is a reason for this, easy access to a method that is fast, has a high success rate, and involves a short process of actions, now give everyone access to a button, a method with the shortest process that kills you instantly and painlessly, are you honestly going to tell me suicide rates wouldn't go up?

 

[Castiel]

This is true, but the process and all the variable's involved imo still acts as a deterrent for many, it can't just be a coincident that shooting yourself, one of the easiest and quickest ways to kill yourself is the most popular, there is a reason for this, easy access to a method that is fast, has a high success rate, and involves a short process of actions, now give everyone access to a button, a method with the shortest process that kills you instantly and painlessly, are you honestly going to tell me suicide rates wouldn't go up?

I think the people who would have succeeded anyway would be the ones who are most likely to take the option, the others I expect would avoid it like the plague.

 

[bitslice]

I can assure you that I speak from experience of a deep acute depression rather than 'skipping through life'....

Obviously I won't refute that but your comment on a gun/syringe being the same as a button didn't feel right to me.

(I wasn't replying to you btw, it was just chance that my post followed yours )

My friend you are the voice of hypocrisy.

Why don't you put that in simpler terms, I can't be bothered working out what you mean at this late hour

I disagree....many people who really truthfully consider suicide are more inclined to be quite elaborate and considered about it, often taking considerable time, planning and effort in the process, method and placement of the act.....

Yes, but that is because it requires a bit of planning so you don't wake up with kidney damage or a face hanging off.
Having a button makes it simpler, although as you implied earlier, lacks drama and the desire to punish those left behind in some way.