Are you still dead after Cremation?

Castiel · 6 Apr 2012 at 17:21

Aid4nTheNoob said:
But for consciousness to cease, you need a brain in the first place. During cremation, as you know, everything is turned to ash, so... you won't have a brain... therefore...yeah, you see where I'm going with this?

That would depend on your belief structure and how you define consciousness and the nature of it......also upon the cessation on conciousness and the subsequent cessation of the bodily function the individual is deemed to be dead, the cremation on the body doesn't alter the definition of death as regards the individual or how you would refer to that individuals current status.

You are creating a conundrum in your own mind that has little or no basis with regard to the standard definitions to which you are referring.

Zefan · 6 Apr 2012 at 17:24

Aid4nTheNoob said:
Look, I know it's stupid... but it makes you think a little bit. Calm down alright? It's the internet.

It doesn't make me think at all, it just makes my brain sigh. Also, who ever said that I can't think a discussion is inane without being calm? Perfectly calm here, I just think this is a really really stupid question

Pawnless Endgame · 6 Apr 2012 at 17:26

Does any of you here believe in anything after death though? Sure, none of us remembers life before birth, so it'll be the same when you die, but I do believe that you'll manifest as someone else, human or animal with no recollection of your previous life. My main concern though is ending up in the food chain if I became animal. Hunted by other animals etc.

arctine · 6 Apr 2012 at 17:26

Your body has been destroyed therefore you are dead.

/closenonsensethread

Marky · 6 Apr 2012 at 17:27

Zefan said:
Your logic is absolutely horrific.

Your quote is defining death, which is not the same thing as dead. "Dead" is an adjective that applies to anything that was once alive but is no longer. It doesn't matter what form something takes, it's still dead.

^
This

"Death is the term used to describe the cessation of all biological functions that sustain a living organism."

You're dead before you are cremated - Did you think you suddenly stop being classed as "dead" when you're no longer a physical being anymore?!

One of the weirdest questions I've seen on here...

Elixir · 6 Apr 2012 at 17:28

This is the most ridiculous attempt at a "deep" conversation topic I've seen in a long time.

Castiel · 6 Apr 2012 at 17:28

Aid4nTheNoob said:
I'll cremate your brain cells for you if you want.

Being "dead" is a state of your body. So if you have no body then you can't be dead

Look, I know it's stupid... but it makes you think a little bit. Calm down alright? It's the internet.

Being dead is not simply a 'state of the body', it is also a 'state of the consciousness' and when considering what you are saying you also have to consider the legal definitions as regards to the individual....commonly callled the Status of Personhood and the disposal of the body in whatever way would not alter the status of that individual in this regard.....effectively and legally they would still be dead.

Cosimo · 6 Apr 2012 at 17:29

Let me see. Alive, die, dead, corpse, cremate, ashes.......

billyboyd said:
Pass that crack pipe round

RomanNose · 6 Apr 2012 at 17:29

If reincarnation is true then it means it's possible to eat yourself.

arctine · 6 Apr 2012 at 17:34

If someone hasn't been pronounced dead by a doc before they're cremated, can they never die?

Eternal life get!

Aod · 6 Apr 2012 at 17:38

arctine said:
If someone hasn't been pronounced dead by a doc before they're cremated, can they never die?

Eternal life get!

Yeah, but it's no kind of living - no-one ever wants to hang out with you, even McDonalds Staff refuse to serve you!

Gackt · 6 Apr 2012 at 17:41

I think only a couple of people have pointed out the glaring flaw in the OP's logic.

You don't cremate living people.

Secondly, if you did, the process of cremation would quickly render you dead before you turned into ash.

Thirdly, you would have a body, it would just be in the form of ash.

[TW]Sponge · 6 Apr 2012 at 17:44

My brain can't handle this thread.

semi-pro waster · 6 Apr 2012 at 17:47

Castiel said:
What would you be considered otherwise? what is the alternative position, given that you have been cremated?

On reading the thread title that was my first thought. The non-existence of life isn't altered by a cremation, if you were dead before then you're certainly not going to be in a better position to continue living after cremation.

arctine said:
If someone hasn't been pronounced dead by a doc before they're cremated, can they never die?

Eternal life get!

If that theory were to work then we'd have hundreds, if not thousands of people killed by fires every year who were immortal* or is it only official cremations that count to this weird non-death state?

*If you've paid any attention then Highlander will tell you "there can be only one" and he's Christopher Lambert.

Castiel · 6 Apr 2012 at 17:50

semi-pro waster said:
*If you've paid any attention then Highlander will tell you "there can be only one" and he's Christopher Lambert.

Or Adrian Paul.......... :eek:

arctine · 6 Apr 2012 at 17:52

semi-pro waster said:
If that theory were to work then we'd have hundreds, if not thousands of people killed by fires every year who were immortal* or is it only official cremations that count to this weird non-death state?

*If you've paid any attention then Highlander will tell you "there can be only one" and he's Christopher Lambert.

Tongue in cheek pal.

semi-pro waster · 6 Apr 2012 at 17:54

arctine said:
Tongue in cheek pal.

I'd hoped that the mention of the film would suggest my response was equally so but maybe it needed extra smileys.

Efour · 6 Apr 2012 at 17:54

how is this logic.

~>Dg<~ · 6 Apr 2012 at 17:57

troll is 1 or 2 on trollometer . needs more effort .

V4NT0M · 6 Apr 2012 at 17:57

The question that the OP is asking whether he knows it or not is not a question of the state of being or death just a funny way of looking at semantics.