Russia Is Massing Troops On Iran's Northern Border

Nerusy said:
Ask yourself that, all we don this forum when it comes to this matter are guessing games, it's lolworty if you think your understanding of US foreign policy is good enough to have an opinion that is more credible than any other poster here.
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I doubt my opinion is any more credible than yours, what confuses me is why you'd post your opinion in the first place if you don't wish to discuss it. Just seems like a bit of a waste of time?

That said you don't need to be an expert in US foreign policy to understand the economic effects of an oil price spike.
 
Nerusy said:
Ask yourself that, all we don this forum when it comes to this matter are guessing games, it's lolworty if you think your understanding of US foreign policy is good enough to have an opinion that is more credible than any other poster here.
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Some people are special, humor them I find it helps.
 
LabR@t said:
no you are wrong on both counts.

Usa have major military footprints in korea,iraq, and have managed to get some nice oil contracts post gulf war 1&2

I do not like the idea of russia taking anything.
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The USA have significant military footprints in far more than just Iraq and South Korea.....however that doesn't imply that they are occupying or claiming sovereignty over those countries...in fact they are ensuring that those countries can maintain their own sovereignty in the face of significant foreign threats to it.....
 
Castiel said:
Alternatively we could read the article and simply point out that what the headline states and what the article actually says are two different things.....which sort of impacts on the veracity and reliability of the article.
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Aye, article title and thread title are misleading. Those military plans are always in place just in case for even most bizarre cases as far as I understand.


[TW]Fox;21657270 said:
I doubt my opinion is any more credible than yours, what confuses me is why you'd post your opinion in the first place if you don't wish to discuss it. Just seems like a bit of a waste of time?

That said you don't need to be an expert in US foreign policy to understand the economic effects of an oil price spike.
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You know I read a lot of threads here, and 80% of the time I write a reply and then I do not post it because of people like you. I am not try to offend you here by the by.

Why post my opinion... I don't know maybe I am a lonely sod and trying to get basic human communication whilst avoiding debates which have an awful tendency to end up in an argument.

The reason I said it's all hypothetical so there's nothing to discuss is exactly because it is the case. We don't know how things would turn out if Russia did not support Iran. I voiced my thought that Russia's support of Iran played a significant role to put off Israel and US from potentially intervening. You think economical part of that aspect was the big factor. You hypothetical vs mine, there's nothing to discuss, what ifs, we can voice them but talking about them is pointless.

Edit: another guess as to why I posted: maybe after seeing Paul11's comment I thought it's be nice to put on the table a thought that it is good that USA has someone to be scared of, that brings some balance, otherwise they'd do whatever they want...even more so. Perhaps...possible...you can see I sound very sure about it lol
 
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Castiel said:
The USA have significant military footprints in far more than just Iraq and South Korea.....however that doesn't imply that they are occupying or claiming sovereignty over those countries...in fact they are ensuring that those countries can maintain their own sovereignty in the face of significant foreign threats to it.....
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Foreign?

Perhaps with South Korea, but when was the taliban foreign to Afganistan?
 
StriderX said:
Foreign?

Perhaps with South Korea, but when was the taliban foreign to Afganistan?
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In fact quite a large proportion of the Taliban are not Afghani....also the issue in Afghanistan was the 'safe haven' and financial support being given to foreign insurgency and terrorist groups operating from within it's borders.....

Ultimately you need to assess each example individually as to what the policy and goals are.
 
Nerusy said:
Aye, article title and thread title are misleading. Those military plans are always in place just in case for even most bizarre cases as far as I understand.
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pretty much, even down to Alien Invasions and Global Extinction Pandemics etc.....



Nerusy said:
Edit: another guess as to why I posted: maybe after seeing Paul11's comment I thought it's be nice to put on the table a thought that it is good that USA has someone to be scared of, that brings some balance, otherwise they'd do whatever they want...even more so. Perhaps...possible...you can see I sound very sure about it lol
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it is called the Balance of Power, and is a very good point to raise.
 
Guys just note who makes this first move here. Undoubtedly it will be by America or Israel, their making everyone jump on the hype train so they can gain support for an attack on Iran. I don't want another Iraq situation.
 
Paul11 said:
not a good thing that they seem to keen to enter any conflict that might occur
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they did it in kosovo... (sort of token effort - but quite bagged themselves the airport) fortunately a rather awesome british general managed to avert world war 3....

I believe james blunt also claimed some credit for it too..
 
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bit worrying that they sem quite blase about the possibility of entering Georgia - whilst I'd actually support the idea that the breakaway provinces have the right to self determination I don't like the idea at all of russia simply creating a corridor through georgian territory on the basis of it being convenient as a supply route.
 
Nerusy said:
Why post my opinion... I don't know maybe I am a lonely sod and trying to get basic human communication whilst avoiding debates which have an awful tendency to end up in an argument.
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It's a political thread, this is a discussion forum... you don't expect people to counter what you say with their own opinions? :confused:
 
dowie said:
they did it in kosovo... fortunately a rather awesome british general managed to avert world war 3....

I believe james blunt also claimed some credit for it too..
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Yep....I was there, Pristina Airport....Tbh, it was a bit of a balls up to begin with, but 4 against 200 was a bit much ......:eek:;)
 
trigger-happy said:
Guys just note who makes this first move here. Undoubtedly it will be by America or Israel, their making everyone jump on the hype train so they can gain support for an attack on Iran. I don't want another Iraq situation.
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America already made the first move declaring economic war on Iran by sanctions just like they did with Japan in WWII.
 
Hxc said:
It's a political thread, this is a discussion forum... you don't expect people to counter what you say with their own opinions? :confused:
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Well I am up for a discussion of something that *can* be discussed, perhaps raise some points that I overlooked leading to a logical or factual conclusion. Discussing hypotheticals on the other hand seems rather pointless, what will be the conclusion, perhaps you're right and perhaps I am right? There won't be a conclusion.

Edit: Besides, his "Well, no" is not a descussion is it, it's bordering insult, in essence he said "You're wrong" that's it.
 
Castiel said:
Yep....I was there, Pristina Airport....Tbh, it was a bit of a balls up to begin with, but 4 against 200 was a bit much ......:eek:;)
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yikes... that must have been a bit of a WTF moment....

presumably you were there dug in in some OP before even james blunt rocked up with his troop...
 
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