If it was legalised, I'd prefer if it was only so that people could smoke it in their own home or other private places, because the smell of weed makes me physically want to vomit (no, this is not an exaggeration).
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If it was legalised, I'd prefer if it was only so that people could smoke it in their own home or other private places, because the smell of weed makes me physically want to vomit (no, this is not an exaggeration).
That's half the problem...The amount of random varietys sold on the streets is just ridiculous...especially if you smoke 'solid' as it's called here which just contains all kinds of tripe and thickeners etc.
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A bad drug trip? On pot? Regardless, that's not the point of his argument, it's about hurting oneself and the cost to society because of it.
Nooo, this is the thing about the recent changes to the guidelines for sentancing with regards to cultivation of cannabis.
Here, check it out .
A person growing 4 plants for personal use would recieve a discharge to a fine of 150% of their weekly wage. And maybe a small to medium community order. Thats all.
All these things happen already :S so, considering that would you not rather the drugs they are using were clean? and the money they spent on it was going to the goverment?
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That's a fair point - I guess it can enhance and add to your life. I guess I've always seen drugs as a negative aspect of society. I don't really mean to be derogatory towards people's ability to be themselves, and don't see it as a slight on them as a person - I do still, and I apologise for opinion/impression/instant reaction it creates, it's possibly a deeply ingrained prejudice - then again we all have our own prejudices we have to fight daily, I guess this is mine.
I appreciate you're not all on a cold turkey slump, and I realise that there are some people, like you, who can take certain drugs with little dependence or "need" for them, and do/can use them as purely a form of entertainment. I get that. I really do, and looking back I should have made that clearer, and we might have avoided the silly spat!
However, it's still an alien concept to me, but perhaps my personality trait just doesn't respond to such stimuli in the same way? I do appreciate your candour and honesty though. It's an interesting insightWould you stop if the long term issues were starting to manifest themselves or if it was making you ill? Like cigarettes have a clear cut proof they are bad for you, there is enough evidence out there that long term use for SOME people can be negative....
i guess to me it sounds odd as you seem to get a buzz from working out. each to their own i guess. i dont have time for the gym, i prefer to be at home with my son. or chewing the fat with my mates.
Those little bits of plastic, you find inside,
Your can use those as a quality guide,
For the standard of soapbar that you are smokin',
The more bits of plastic, means the better the tokin'
A song presumably?
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A lot of people bring up alcohol related comparisons as a way to condone Cannabis usage or legalisation but I fail to this as a valid argument, alcohol has been a prominent part of our culture for thousands of years, only a few decades ago we thought smoking regular cigarettes was healthy for us, Doctors would be in pro smoking advertisements for example, we know that alcohol is bad but is has become an institutionalised part of our society and would be very hard to ban or limit the drug in a serious capacity today, but we are becoming more aware of it's negative effects, I don't think because of it's place in society justifies legalising more drugs, even if they are less destructive, we have to be very careful what we introduce into society today, it will have an impact upon society for generations to come, is it really worth the risk, I think this this is why we choose the costly legislated route instead, the gamble is to high.
Do you think a more evolved society will need recreational drugs?, are they the future? personally I can see us growing beyond them as a recreational need, eventually they may be no demand for the government to give into, although that could be a long way off.
Do you think a more evolved society will need recreational drugs?, are they the future? personally I can see us growing beyond them as a recreational need, eventually they may be no demand for the government to give into, although that could be a long way off.
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i agree with you. maybe dont legalise but decriminalise. its hard to take the government seriously when their advisers say something and they just disagree and sack their advisers.
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I enjoy those things too, I just make time for looking after myself, and I enjoy being healthy - however, yes you're completely correct that everyone has different interests, the world would be a dull place it we were all the same!!
I'm sure when I have kids other things will take 2nd place, perhaps not, perhaps I'll be able to manage my time... we'll see.
However, yup - we all like to do different things, and that's why ocuk is such a great ambassador to this fact - look at us all with different hobbies and interest - fascinating!
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agreed. i dont want to see people walking around the town smoking. but i prefer that to seeing ****ed people acting like idiots. now i rarely drink i find going into town on a weekend evening is just terrible.
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I may have missed some of the above conversation, but I wouldn't attribute whitey-ing to a bad trip, it's just ingesting too much cannabis, same as if you drink too much alcohol.
Being sensible is not a laughable thing.
In my experience the kind of people who frequently use cannabis are morally suspect at absolute best. It's generally the people you'd describe as a bit 'sad', often from stereotypical broken homes. Of course I'm sure not everyone is like this, but it's what I've found.
If it's all so easy to obtain, why do you even want it legalised anyway? You obviously don't respect the law and have zero problems obtaining the substances from your drug dealer friends.
Driving on an empty motorway at 180mph is something I would deem to be 'safe' and may enjoy doing, yet I'd be in a lot of trouble if I was caught doing it - so I don't do it.
It's a simple premise really, you know you are breaking the law, even if you don't agree with the law itself - that in itself is out of order. You're happy to put your career and future at risk over something so stupid? Extremely bizarre.
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Goldie Lookin' Chain.
I may have missed some of the above conversation, but I wouldn't attribute whitey-ing to a bad trip, it's just ingesting too much cannabis, same as if you drink too much alcohol.
So a bad trip then?
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Sorry, but I've never heard of someone suffering a bad trip from smoking pot the day after at work.
And lol, no I've never heard of someone having a whitey, like ever, at all. Is it something some folk might have when smoking pot for the first time?
Have to wonder what workplaces of the future will be employing people and letting them smoke pot for the first time, at work!Remember the recent past goverment drug council advisers who were sacked/had to resign because they were saying legalise drugs? But the goverment didn't like that did they?
One of the whole points they tried to make (amongst many, many others) was that alcohol and tobacco are the worse of the lot but since they are the only things avalible for a lot of people, they are 'pushed' into taking those because of the lack of choice... The costly route is the one we are already on, not the other way around.
More people died from drowning in their cereal bowl than taking MDMA last year, lol. Shall we compare that to alcohol related death?
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its still not concrete, there are lots of things that can sway the decision and all down to conjecture. i have a record so i would get screwed
oh well, i was thinking of having a couple in the garden.So a bad trip then?
I don't think so, it may just be my interpretation, but I'd consider a bad trip to be a very bad experience that occurs while using cannabis 'normally', so you have your usual amount and you go off your rocker. Which IMO doesn't happen, in my experience the only people who go bad are those silly people who smoke it all the time and turn into paranoid social recluses.
We are all different have different likes dislikes, we experience different highs and different lows natural or induced. Not everyone gets to walk away from smoking weed with as little as a chesty cough. Just like not every weed smoker spirals out of control to heroin or meth.
Threads like these will only serve to aggravate the naive and the arrogant into a baseless debate that can be reputedly debunked with so much irrelevant evidence from each side. It's almost more pointless than debating theism on this forum.
Threads like these will only serve to aggravate the naive and the arrogant into a baseless debate that can be reputedly debunked with so much irrelevant evidence from each side. It's almost more pointless than debating theism on this forum.
or maybe its people with a tendancy to become prarnoid recluses that are attracted to smoking pot?