Subtracting increased debt financing costs and welfare, it has been cut by 0.8%. However, given that direct welfare payments to poor people is supposed to be really good for finding its way back into the economy and exchequer, the net effect is probably even closer to 0%, right?Incidentally, you do realise that UK public spending hasn't been cut at all, right?
You know that the Greek bailout and Portugese prop-up was an indirect prop-up of the French banking system, right?
But it shows the country has a debt crisis. Just like the UK would still have a debt crisis if you nulled government debt.And? The exposure if the French banking system to the genuine debt crises of other European countries will not be aided one jot by government austerity.
And inflating growth with borrowing just moves the problem further down the road.
What both France and the UK need is genuine growth, not fake growth caused by the government pumping money from future taxpayers into the economy now. The question is how to achieve that.
It's not a hard question really... Supply side policies are generally the answer. AK model would probably be good here. Long term growth and what not. Solow for medium term, yadayada...
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What both countries need and the whole of Europe is actually a bit of consumer confidence....the whole austerity/credit/banking/Eurozone crisis is becoming a self fulfilling prophecy....people have money, they are just too scared to actually spend it because they are being told that the world is about to end.....and people spending money, funnily enough, fuels growth......
As you're probably aware, running a sizable deficit is sometimes necessary to stimulate a change in mindset and direction which ultimately sets the longer term trend. Free market economies aren't very good at lifting themselves out of the doldrums. It requires an entity to look at the bigger picture and take a more selfless approach. A lot of economics boils down to psychology.And inflating growth with borrowing just moves the problem further down the road.
As you're probably aware, running a sizable deficit is sometimes necessary to stimulate a change in mindset and direction which ultimately sets the longer term trend. Free market economies aren't very good at lifting themselves out of the doldrums. It requires an entity to look at the bigger picture and take a more selfless approach. A lot of economics boils down to psychology.
If the country weren't already in so much debt people wouldn't question running a deficit in order to stimulate growth.
Having said that I believe the public service cuts should continue and borrowing should be used to finance tax cuts for middle earners (i.e. people who will spend not save) and businesses looking to take on additional employees.
The country needs some good news, and so do the government if they're not going to lose the next election.
I thought I made it clear that I don't consider it to be so, no.You don't call running a deficit of circa 9% a stimulus? Funny definition. At any other time in history, it would have been considered huge.
A Keynesian stimulus doesn't require that, but I concur that, simply put, Keynesianism is precisely that. Running a substantial surplus during the boom, with a substantial deficit during recession.The issue is that Keynesian stimulus requires you to run a responsible budget during the boom time, something that neither France nor the UK did.
Yes, and the last thing I want to do is get into an argument about Ricardian equivalence, but I'm sure I don't have to note how important confidence is when people are deciding how to spend their money.Incidentally, you do realise that UK public spending hasn't been cut at all, right?
But it shows the country has a debt crisis. Just like the UK would still have a debt crisis if you nulled government debt.
You know that the Greek bailout and Portugese prop-up was an indirect prop-up of the French banking system, right? Without either, it would have collapsed.
What both countries need and the whole of Europe is actually a bit of consumer confidence....the whole austerity/credit/banking/Eurozone crisis is becoming a self fulfilling prophecy....people have money, they are just too scared to actually spend it because they are being told that the world is about to end.....and people spending money, funnily enough, fuels growth......
And inflating growth with borrowing just moves the problem further down the road.
What both France and the UK need is genuine growth, not fake growth caused by the government pumping money from future taxpayers into the economy now. The question is how to achieve that.
I haven't seen this guy's manifesto, but by the sounds of it, he might drive businesses and hard working, productive people away with heavy taxation. Cool, we'll welcome them with open arms.![]()
The US deficit is less than ours, in classical terminology, they are stimulating less than we are. Not to mention they provide the reserve currency for the world which makes their position somewhat different.
Just to be clear, are you advocating short term growth as being more important than long term stability? Effectively a simple game of 'kick the can'?