Drink driving

[FnG]magnolia;21889751 said:
Get new mates.

Also, I'd knock him out rather than let him drive. YMMV.
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I hate to be a keyboard warrior but I am inclined to say I would do the same if the person really insisted on driving whilst drunk, and if he didn't stop it he would also become a former friend. They either kill / maim themselves, some random stranger, or get themselves into trouble just because of alcohol and stupidity.

I lost someone very close to me because of a drink driver, it is one of the most callous, reckless and selfish things anyone could do. All it takes is that small lack of concentration brought about by the drink, and the car turns into a rolling death machine.

At the risk of sounding ridiculous, I hate drink drivers from the bottom of my heart, and I no longer speak to someone I once considered a friend because despite my experiences, he continued to do it. (I don't expect a person to change because of me, I expect a person not to drink drive for the safety of others).
 
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Get new friends. Drink driving is very dangerous to the driver and anyone near by, he'd be more likely to hurt someone else very seriously and being with him involves you (which is always going to end badly)

ScoTTyBEEE said:
Most people are perfectly able to drive as long as they aren't completely smashed imho.
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Nope, never worth risking it, ever. Seen many people get away with it but there are always consequences.

Devrij said:
Pay a pizza delivery guy extra to deliver them smokes, or at least some rizla. That's a win for everyone
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Ah reminds me of that thread last year of bring one the rain (can't really remember his name before it was changed) being too drunk to roll at home... :D
 
ScoTTyBEEE said:
Go with him and grab some pringles, doritos and dips - also stock up on smokes and rizlas yourself.

Most people are perfectly able to drive as long as they aren't completely smashed imho.
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It's this attitude that leads to problems. Do I think I could drive after having a few drinks? Sure I do, but I also know my attention wains more often than it should when drunk and my judgement is not as good as when I am sober, so I DON'T.

If you drink drive, I really hope you get suspended at some point, at the very least, sorry.

If I hurt someone else whilst I was driving drunk, I could never forgive myself.
 
as some one said go for him tell him your going for him but take his keys on the way just incase he trys to drive while you are out.
 
I find the attitude to drink (not drunk) driving quite interesting - it doesn't appear to have a scientific basis, if it did society would be as angry at people driving without sleep - more so in fact.
 
it doesn't appear to have a scientific basis
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Can of worms there man, there is plenty of evidence to show a drink driver is more likely to not only have an accident, but be involved in a fatal one. Ofc it gets worse the more drunk you are.


if it did society would be as angry at people driving without sleep
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We are, and were. Is that not what led to the rules regarding how long truckers are allowed to drive? Pilots too. Or am I missing something?
 
Gaygle said:
I suppose walking/cycling(assuming not too drunk)/taking a taxi/finding someone sober to drive were all deemed to be too complicated for his genius mind to think of?
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Cycling whilst drunk is bad aswell, no lights more then likely, cycling/weaving on a road = asking for it.

Just walk to a shop with him, problem solved.
 
Try and take the keys off of him, and reason with him, try and block him in. Otherwise there is little you can do. I wouldn't do anything that would put me or him in danger in an attempt to stop him, but everything else is ok.

As a side point.

More deaths occur through people cycling or walking home drunk than do driving each year, in fact I think it might be a higher proportion as well. That even takes into account the number of people that are killed by drink drivers each year. Technically speaking the statistics for this are taken from America, but I'd presume it is similar figures in the UK.

That's not to say the huge psychological impact of killing someone whilst you're drunk probably doesn't have an impact. I'd also never drink drive. In fact if I'm driving, I'm one of those people who won't drink at all. It's just easier and makes more sense, rather than going 'oh I'll have half a pint' or something...

kd
 
shadesofgrey said:
We are, and were. Is that not what led to the rules regarding how long truckers are allowed to drive? Pilots too. Or am I missing something?
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But drink driving is enforced across the population but apart from the occasional sign on the motorway driving without sleep isn't even mentioned.

It's easy to say enforcing sleep deprivation isn't as easy as alcohol consumption but honestly it's a myth that you can measure the effect alcohol has on a person that easily anyway.
 
I would link it but there's swearing etc. There was a video of a guy who wanted to go and pick his daughter up after he'd been drinking. He wouldn't listen or be even remotely reasonable so his buddy choked him out.

Seemed to work.
 
shadesofgrey said:
Dead people's blood results dont lie man.
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That's measuring blood alcohol, not the effect it has on their ability to drive.

A contributory factor in all cases I'd agree but I'd rather be driven by an alcoholic at twice the legal limit than a tee-total at half the limit.
 
Telescopi said:
But drink driving is enforced across the population but apart from the occasional sign on the motorway driving without sleep isn't even mentioned.

It's easy to say enforcing sleep deprivation isn't as easy as alcohol consumption but honestly it's a myth that you can measure the effect alcohol has on a person that easily anyway.
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It is, there are signs up on the motorways (well M1) to take a rest and warn that sleep deprivation inhibits driving.

It's one of the questions on the theory test somewhere too (I think).

Driving tired has less of a stigma to it as everyone know drink driving is bad, really bad (we've all seen police camera action, even my cat has) and know the consequences, so doing it is more or less sicking your middle finger up at the law and society because someone thinks they know better.

Driving really tired tends to have a reason or just a lack of foresight so gets a slap on the wrist and don't do it again sort of attitude, unless a massive accident comes of it, as you aren't challenging some sort of authority in the same way
 
shadesofgrey said:
Dead people's blood results dont lie man.
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Blood test results don't give any indication of how much affect a drug has on an individual. Performance testing is a much better indicator, brain imaging can also be used but is less relevant. Someone could be over the limit yet be so tolerant to ethanol that is has no affect on them whatsoever.
 
Energize said:
Blood test results don't give any indication of how much affect a drug has on an individual. Performance testing is a much better indicator, brain imaging can also be used but is less relevant. Someone could be over the limit yet be so tolerant to ethanol that is has no affect on them whatsoever.
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But for the purposes of enforcement, a blanket ban on a limit which most people are likely to be affected seems like a pragmatic approach, don't you agree?
 
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