It can certainly be influenced, in that sexuality isn't black and white, but rather a shade of grey with parts that can be particularly embraced. I think it's all rather complex and we aren't quite sure of all the biological and environmental triggers. Either way, the idea that the teaching of homosexuality in schools is gaying up kids is a little extreme; if anything it's just allowing those who would have eventually wound up identifying themselves as gay to do so a little earlier, knowing there's nothing wrong with it.
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The bible is a collection of texts that encompass a whole range of literature, poetry, history, law, and analogy and song. It is not the literal word of God, neither is it simply a bunch of stories......
The crazy thing about American Biblical Literalism is much of what they hold to be true and foretold by the Bible, the Rapture being a prime example, are not even in the Bible....the Rapture being largely a 15th century invention of a man who liked to hang young women for witchcraft. Only the other day I was talking to someone supposedly who went to a seminary that actually believed that God gave the Septuagint to Jesus, who passed it onto Paul of Tarsus....
My point is that don't take these people's opinion as gospel (
) when judging the Bible or what it is supposed to be, which ultimately is as a guide to an individuals spirituality and relationship with their God. Because of the nature of the Bible it is practically impossible to say this or that is definitively the purpose of the bible, as that is subjective to the individual to a great extent and in a good many cases what American (and others) Evangelicals believe has little to do with the Bible and everything to do with their politics and prejudices.
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I think that sex education should deal with sex....whether it is hetero or homosexual is immaterial, with the obvious exception of conception the basic premise is the same so I do not see why we have to single out homosexuality in education.....just teach what needs to be taught about safe sex etc to all groups equally. Maybe then we can begin to move beyond this stigma attached to it and people can simply be people and their sexual preferences remain their business rather than everyone else's.
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It might slightly depend on how you're defining hurting and in what contexts it is/isn't allowed but yes, I'd generally agree that what people do in the privacy of their own homes is no-one elses business unless the person or people in question choose to reveal it. The codicil to that being of course that if you do start inviting public scrutiny of your private life then it's not always easy to halt further intrusions.
My metaphorical cap is doffed to the news anchor there for asking those questions with a straight face, I'd have struggled with that.
How would you imagine it to work? (genuine question)
I'm not sure how you could deal with 'sex' in such isolation that the premise of it, conception, relationships, the physical act etc. aren't obvious holes.
I have no idea, to be fair it is not my balliwick....but it seems to me half the problem with acceptance of different lifestyles and sexual preferences is that they are treated as being different and separate from the get go.....surely it would be preferable if sex education treated them all as variations of the same and therefore quite normal....like a person having blue eyes or brown.
It just seems that currently we have a situation where one group are excessively advertising their differences while another are vilifying them for those differences, each fuelling the other....are we not mature enough just to accept each other and stop highlighting our differences so vehemently just to garner a reaction from each other.
Personally I don't care if someone prefers women or men...it's not my business and I don't want it to be my business, but it seems that both groups want to make it so.
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Well constructed, thoughtful and concise. She should run for Congress.
Well constructed, thoughtful and concise. She should run for Congress.
Why ? Kids benefit from stable relationships around them. Doesn't matter if that is with parents who are from two sexes or one.
It's all well and good being fine with it behind closed doors, but then you have to take into account that some homosexuals might want to get married to their partner and have equal rights to straight couples, or heaven forbid, hold hands in the street and kiss each other, in public.
The fight is more than just trying to expose openly bigoted retards like demonstrated in the video, but also the ones who are all "what they do behind closed doors is fine but I don't want to have to witness it in public, its unnatural and how am I supposed to explain it to my little Timmy!??!"
The fight is more than just trying to expose openly bigoted retards like demonstrated in the video, but also the ones who are all "what they do behind closed doors is fine but I don't want to have to witness it in public, its unnatural and how am I supposed to explain it to my little Timmy!??!"
Do we have any evidence regarding this, out of curiosity? As far as I understand, we haven't had enough time to see what impact, if any, raising children under same-sex couples would have. I would assume that it would have some bearing on their sexuality...
Well, it is the Word of God as far the Western and Eastern Churches are concerned - equally His and that of its human authors...
Only the other day I was talking to someone supposedly who went to a seminary that actually believed that God gave the Septuagint to Jesus, who passed it onto Paul of Tarsus....
Seriously??!!!
I'd say that it was a truism that children benefit from stable relationships, i'm not going to go do research for you. My point was that a stable same sex relationship is a better environment for a child than an unstable different sex relationship.
No, i would not assume it would have a bearing on the childs sexuality. Thats as nonsensical as saying homosexuality and be taught and untaught.
Not the literal word of God....it is inspired by God or more specifically the authors were inspired by the holy spirit. Therefore the books of the bible are not infallible in any way other than expressing the Christian God's vision.....it is not and is not considered so by mainstream Christianity to be the dictated Word of God.
The problem is that many non-Christians will assume the statement "Word of God" refers to the Bible being the literal and dictated Words of God himself, effectively that he wrote the book himself or dictated it to the original writer....when that is not what it means in the context of Catholicism or other mainstream Christian Churches. The Hebrew Bible has never had a tradition of being considered inerrant and the issue lies with the difference between inerrancy and infallibility and how that is interpreted by the observer.
Seriously??!!!
indeed. and that is not he worst I have heard for people who call themselves scholars.
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All evidence available seems to point towards there being no harm whatsoever. As to what bearing it may have on their sexuality, it might well make them a little more able to express what they feel their sexuality is. However if you think that sexuality is taught then you are going to find it really difficult to explain all those homosexuals that come from strict religious backgrounds...
All evidence available seems to point towards there being no harm whatsoever. As to what bearing it may have on their sexuality, it might well make them a little more able to express what they feel their sexuality is. However if you think that sexuality is taught then you are going to find it really difficult to explain all those homosexuals that come from strict religious backgrounds...
Not to mention all those that come from hetero parents. Which you would have to assume was the majority. Those parents sure failed to teach them to be straight
I think this thread is about the stupidity of some people, rather than peoples sexual preference - which anybody in their right mind should not give too hoots about.
Thank "God" such people don't get much air time in the UK, though a slot on Channel 5 would be suitable.
Thank "God" such people don't get much air time in the UK, though a slot on Channel 5 would be suitable.
Didn't bother watching beyond about 20 seconds.
Behind electric fences? lol. The bible says it's a sin, which puts it in the same category as what everybody else does. We all sin according to the bible, so therefore, we should ALL be behind electric fences until we die out.
However, it's easy to pick on this woman, a lot of people aren't used to the camera etc. If you put someone on from say.. the black country.. then all 'English' would appear to be thick as well.
Behind electric fences? lol. The bible says it's a sin, which puts it in the same category as what everybody else does. We all sin according to the bible, so therefore, we should ALL be behind electric fences until we die out.
However, it's easy to pick on this woman, a lot of people aren't used to the camera etc. If you put someone on from say.. the black country.. then all 'English' would appear to be thick as well.
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The woman is an idiot and I feel sorry for her.
All evidence available seems to point towards there being no harm whatsoever. As to what bearing it may have on their sexuality, it might well make them a little more able to express what they feel their sexuality is. However if you think that sexuality is taught then you are going to find it really difficult to explain all those homosexuals that come from strict religious backgrounds...
I absolutely didn't say I thought that, so no words in mouth please
All available evidence isn't much, considering what I've already pointed out. What bearing you think it may have on their sexuality is therefore as valid as mine.Not to mention all those that come from hetero parents. Which you would have to assume was the majority. Those parents sure failed to teach them to be straight
As above.
As above, but again, your point is based on what evidence? I'm not asking for you to do any research - I'm pointing out the lack of research. I don't see how assuming that a child's upbringing has absolutely no bearing on their sexual behaviour is nonsensical. "Nurture" does account for something, as well as "nature." I'm certainly not claiming any expertise in this area- on the contrary, I'm genuinely interested in what the evidence has to show; but you're simply giving me opinions.
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