Two mothers jailed for attack on autistic teenager

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TWO YOUNG mothers who launched a “sadistic” attack on an autistic teenager have each been jailed for five years.

The cruel bullies locked their 17-year-old victim, who cannot be named for legal reasons, in a room before she was viciously beaten, robbed and stripped of her clothes.

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Judge Harvey Clark QC said: “You had her at your mercy but you showed no mercy to her.”

He said between them the pair “casually agreed” to play out their plot. He said Stevenson had carried out the cruel attack which appeared at the very least to be encouraged by Ridgement.

Stevenson smashed a bottle over the 17 year-old's head.

The terrified teenager was kicked and punched in the face, which knocked her to the floor, leaving her with a bleeding nose.

Judge Harvey Clark QC said their victim was “in tears; tears of pain” and had pleaded for the defendants to stop but instead they continued their “cruel bullying”.

She was then robbed of her mobile phone, clothes and told to take off her shoes.

Only when they had robbed and humiliated their victim did they release her into the cold, wet November evening dressed only in her underwear, he said.

Ridgement had a number of convictions and reprimands dating back to when she was 13 years-old.

Stevenson had no previous convictions but had received reprimands and a warning for shoplifting.
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Fantastic. What is wrong with people these days?! How anyone can treat someone so vunerable like this is beyond me. Personally I think five years (read: two and half) is way too lenient a sentence.

I cannot believe these people are allowed to have children. One of them is likely to give birth to twins in prison - what a great start for those children.

As you will notice, they have both got criminal records, presumably dealt with by the superb justice system all of our left wing lunatics advocate - reducing re-offending no end.
 
There is a whole social underclass in the UK (which seems to be quite unique here from my personal experience) and a contagious deviant culture.

Unfortunately the gov is not interested in doing anything about it apart from being reactive. The underclass will keep going on, generation after generation, behaving in even more depraved ways.

There is no quick fix and no quick solution, and that means no quick votes to be won, so no party will take charge of the issue as they will end up making their successors good.
 
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Fantastic. What is wrong with people these days?! How anyone can treat someone so vunerable like this is beyond me. Personally I think five years (read: two and half) is way too lenient a sentence.

I cannot believe these people are allowed to have children. One of them is likely to give birth to twins in prison - what a great start for those children.
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Terrible situation.

shoes said:
As you will notice, they have both got criminal records, presumably dealt with by the superb justice system all of our left wing lunatics advocate - reducing re-offending no end.
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Left wing justice system?, with no rehabilitation?. - please explain why the most "lefty softy cushy" justice systems in the EU have the lowest re-offender rates.

How about you do some research on the subject before trying to push your stupid opinions off the back of somebody else's suffering.
 
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Fantastic. What is wrong with people these days?! How anyone can treat someone so vunerable like this is beyond me. Personally I think five years (read: two and half) is way too lenient a sentence.

I cannot believe these people are allowed to have children. One of them is likely to give birth to twins in prison - what a great start for those children.

As you will notice, they have both got criminal records, presumably dealt with by the superb justice system all of our left wing lunatics advocate - reducing re-offending no end.
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over 4 years used to be more than 1/2 the sentence. not sure that is still true though. these people are scum. there is no place in society for them. some people are just evil :(

poor lass.
 
elmarko1234 said:
Terrible situation.

Left wing justice system?, with no rehabilitation?. - please explain why the most "lefty softy cushy" justice systems in the EU have the lowest re-offender rates.

How about you do some research on the subject before trying to push your stupid opinions off the back of somebody else's suffering.
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Show me how it is working. Forget other countries - show me here, in the UK, where WE live. Show me it working, give me evidence that our society is responding well to having benefits thrown at it, having a decline in aspiration, a soft touch on crime and a rehabilitation system.
 
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Fantastic. What is wrong with people these days?! How anyone can treat someone so vunerable like this is beyond me. Personally I think five years (read: two and half) is way too lenient a sentence.

I cannot believe these people are allowed to have children. One of them is likely to give birth to twins in prison - what a great start for those children.

As you will notice, they have both got criminal records, presumably dealt with by the superb justice system all of our left wing lunatics advocate - reducing re-offending no end.
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Not sure how you can blame the left wing for that. Being in prison doesn't prevent criminals either.

Problem is more systemic than not dealing with troubled teens in their teens. We've all lived through the 90's and watched parenting unfold amongst the lower class. Would applaud Cameron if he could fix it but he doesn't have the stomach to deal with the "working" class. Yes i know working is a bit laughable xD

Ontopic good Judge delivered a sentence that was clearly deserved.
 
OMG

SHE SHE.... not many autistic females.....

oh yer and beating someone is bad... probably more to the story (not that I can see how) austistic's can be a bit mental...
 
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As you will notice, they have both got criminal records, presumably dealt with by the superb justice system all of our left wing lunatics advocate - reducing re-offending no end.
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The UK has a self-defeating right-wing attitude to criminal justice which gives us one of the highest prison populations in the developed world, and the highest reoffending rate in the EU.
 
elmarko1234 said:
Left wing justice system?, with no rehabilitation?. - please explain why the most "lefty softy cushy" justice systems in the EU have the lowest re-offender rates.
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I'd be surpirsed if the countries with the lowest offending rates didn't also have the lowest population densities.

There is less crime in a village than there is in a city. You cram more people into a small space and the probability of crime increases.
 
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maybe they have a (on average) "better" population so dont need as tough a jsutice system?
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Indeed, they don't have such an underclass of people who are work shy, dependant on benefits, who have no aspirations and just keep popping out kids because there is no downside to doing so. These people are utter scum and see no problem with living off the back of everyone else's productivity.

All of these kids by different delinquent fathers grow up learning only how to play the system and get what they want by any means necessary - no work ethic is instilled. Because the parents don't give a **** they just send the kids to the nearest crappy comp that will accept them where they mix with hoards of other children from equally terribly backgrounds.

They grow up thinking this is normal, and eventually repeating the cycle again. Another problem with this is the rate at which the poor procreate - the literally do it willy nilly. The have more children on average, younger, thus creating faster generation cycles.

As for dealing with the 'working class', they are not the problem. The problem lies within the scum underclass. I don't know for sure, but I'd be willing to be money that at some of the following are true:

a) neither have jobs, nor have done a decent days work in the life
b) both are totally dependant on benefits and think that it is an acceptable lifestyle
c) both a heavy drinkers
d) both have at least two children already, by different fathers.
e) both failed at school and thought it was funny/acceptable
f) both dabble in minor crimes daily

Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if the twins inside the one who's pregnant each have different fathers ;)

That poor girl will most likely have to live with those memories, mental scaring and fear for the rest of her lives. The other two have already forgotten about her suffering, and are working out how they are going to make their mark in prison. In two to three years they'll be free, presumably to continue filling their own kids with the uneducated nonsense and raising yet another handful of future criminals. They won't give a damn about this poor vulnerable girl.
 
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Hatter The Mad said:
The UK has a self-defeating right-wing attitude to criminal justice which gives us one of the highest prison populations in the developed world, and the highest reoffending rate in the EU.
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is there evidence that the system creates the criminals?

or is it a case that the system has to become "right wing" to contain the hardened criminal population?

I don't know the answer....
 
If people want to commit crime, they will. Seeing as our tax money is spent on finding, proving and convicting these ****s then I'd at least like them to suffer gravely for their actions - I think we're way too far down the intellectually devoid left route these days to force them to work hard to pay for their own conviction/incarceration costs, so we will have to settle for some suffering.

Trouble is they don't even get that.

I don't buy the whole argument for good behaviour = easier for the prison staff to manage. If you only let one out of their cell at a time then there will be no revolt, there will be no riot.
 
edscdk said:
is there evidence that the system creates the criminals?
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Yes - it is right in front of you in this country, or in America. Longer sentences and more jailable offences = higher reoffending rates and lower rehabilitation rate.

Unfortunately most people in this country are ****ing stupid, can't see beyond one foot in front of their own face, and swallow most of their facts and world views from the right-wing press, who want to see successive governments to be 'hard on criminals'.

Edit: It doesn't create criminals, but it reinforces it, and causes criminality or social degradation to feed down generations.
 
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If you want less criminals then the first step is to treat them like humans and not criminals.
The right wing media has been spouting lies for decades about Prison sentences, increasing sentences doesn't reduce crime, itn fact it makes it worst.
There is a band of time where you should release a prisoner, if you go past that band then they are more likely to reoffend.
 
Hatter The Mad said:
Yes - it is right in front of you in this country, or in America. Longer sentences and more jailable offences = higher reoffending rates and lower rehabilitation rate.

Unfortunately most people in this country are ****ing stupid and swallow most of their facts and world views from the right-wing press, who want to see successive governments to be 'hard on criminals'.
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but thats not evidence,

maybe its the general attitude of the population that causes the issue and the justice system has to adjust to keep the criminal out of circulation for longer?

does the diet coke I drink make me fat or do I drink diet coke because I think I am fat?

again I don't know the answer.... (to either questions)
 
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