Unemployed bussed in to steward jubilee, unpaid and asked to sleep rough

Will do but I don't think my meat and veg work anymore after this winter, they froze and fell off. OH WELL GUESS I'LL HAVE TO GET A JOB!

You need to claim the dysfunctional penile rebate for £34,995 a year.

I think the Gov form code is PD01 :D.
 
A bloke where I work had a temp contract that was recently terminated. He was an engineer but had such a defeatest attitude 'ohhhhh there is just no work out there' so we didn't renew when his time was up.

Where do you work? When you say "we didn't renew" you really mean that your boss didn't renew, or did you have some say in the hiring and firing of staff?
 

why are you laughing!

http://www.polishforums.com/archive...-towards-polish-immigration-uk-becoming-6435/

I am a working class English guy from Blackpool and I am experiencing the social effects of eastern European immigration first hand. I have respect for Polish people; I have a few Polish work mates and have had a few Polish girlfriends (including one that lived with me for about 6 months). Last year in Blackpool we had about 6000 polish people living and working in Blackpool for the season which spans from April to November. According to our local newspaper we are expecting 15000 in 2007. The polish that come to Blackpool are mostly students in their 20’s. Blackpool has been very welcoming towards them since they started to arrive in 2004. Our local paper has a Polish journalist and even one of our popular nightclubs has a Polish night every Tuesday.

I know that most English working class people in Blackpool do actually regard polish people as friends. Although recently I’ve noticed that the attitudes are changing rapidly. It is becoming clear that the only reason they come here is souly for money. They work for the season, save up loads of money (because they are sharing a 3 bedroom house with about 15 people, go home for 3 months get all of their tax back and then return again when the season starts again.

Most foreign workers don’t even like the town yet they are coming back year after year and doing the same. I have never had a penny back from the tax man and I’ve got to stay here all winter and try my hardest to survive. The main thing that is annoying fallow English workers in low end jobs is that the Polish are coming out of this much better than us and they are making it hard for us to find work other jobs.

And that was from 2007
 
Some of the young Tory Boys on here really are in for a shock later in their lives if things don't go perfectly smoothly - it only takes divorce, unemployment or health problems for your life to turn upside down and suddenly find yourself becoming a 'benefit scrounger'.
 
Some of the young Tory Boys on here really are in for a shock later in their lives if things don't go perfectly smoothly - it only takes divorce, unemployment or health problems for your life to turn upside down and suddenly find yourself becoming a 'benefit scrounger'.

There is a massive difference between bad health and just can't be bothered.
Why all the Tory assumptions too? I have never once on these forums discussed polical voting.
 
I still think it's terrible the hoops that these companies make people jump through to be considered for work. I think these 'trial' schemes should be made illegal. Nobody should have to work unpaid for more than an hour to see if they are suitable for a role, let alone work on bank holidays for long unsociable hours. It's grossly taking advantage of people's unemployment and it's repugnant.

They're being paid to look for work - I don't have an issue with someone being told/asked to do some work temporarily as part of their benefits if, after a period of time, they've been unable to find work off their own back.
 
yet again the forced work programmes for those on benefits fails, all it is, is companies getting free labour from the unemployed in return for donations to the tory party

can't wait for this to end up in court, the human rights act bans slavery

its all well and good giving people RELEVANT experience, but what the hell does this give them
 
You are making assumptions that people who don't have jobs just 'cant be bothered', works both ways.

I only talk of experience of people I have met in real life. Many many people seem to live a reasonable life without lifting a finger.
I feel almost all of the issue is with people giving up and taking the 'there is nothing out there' approach, rather than 'I will find work very soon' view.

Anyway, I am off to relax for a bit, as some of us have work in the morning ;).
 
They're being paid to look for work - I don't have an issue with someone being told/asked to do some work temporarily as part of their benefits if, after a period of time, they've been unable to find work off their own back.
Why though?

If there is enough work to make them do 30 hour weeks for up to 2 years like the Work Programme then give them the full time paid job?

Its just forced free labour for big corporations, why take on staff when you can use the unlimited rotating roster of unemployed people.
I only talk of experience of people I have met in real life. Many many people seem to live a reasonable life without lifting a finger.
I feel almost all of the issue is with people giving up and taking the 'there is nothing out there' approach, rather than 'I will find work very soon' view.
For each person you talk to that don't want to lift a finger there will be another person who tries their hardest to find a job and tarring everyone with the same brush just makes people give up. If people are treated like scum because of the stigma of benefits then why bother looking for work, if people treat you like that you might as well act like it.
 
I only talk of experience of people I have met in real life.
I feel almost all of the issue is with people giving up and taking the 'there is nothing out there' approach, rather than 'I will find work very soon' view.

Which is called denial and is a dangerous road in itself, which would lead to more psychopaths that we have now. /assumption.

What would you tell someone who say looked for a job for 20 years with that attitude and still has not got one, his prospects are getting lower each time, especially due to ageism?

He would eventually crack at some point, probably ending his life. /assumption.
 
They're being paid to look for work - I don't have an issue with someone being told/asked to do some work temporarily as part of their benefits if, after a period of time, they've been unable to find work off their own back.

Being required to work long hours unpaid is repugnant totally irrespective of government paid benefits. As before, nobody should be put in the position whereby they expected to work like that merely to be 'considered' for a job. It's pure exploitation on behalf of the 'employer', the fact that those working might be on an unemployment benefit is irrelevant in my eyes.
 
I had zero input into it but this is what the senior members of the department who did said afterwards. It was 50/50 boss and a senior member who decided.

I don't care who made the decision, the point is that you didn't despite trying to imply that you did and look like a big shot on here.
 
I think a good way to get people back into work (low paid jobs) would be to give a 1 year tax break up to 15k for those who've been LT unemployed for over a year. Then obviously dropping back to 747L or something.

Gives a good chance for people to get back on the horse and make the money go further.
 
Look at towns that have had an influx of immigrants, Blackpool is one of the worst places for jobs, Something like 6000 Polish live there in "season" and work in bars/hotels 10 to an house, they love it, money is great compared to Poland then go back home when the winter comes and trade drops.

More and more immigrants coming here, under cutting British people because to them the money is amazing and they can afford to have cheap accommodation because of so many of them living in a property.

Quite... people from other countries will travel over here in search of work and will often find it. Lots of people in the UK wouldn't likely even consider moving 100 miles... to quote Norman Tebbit 'get on your bike'
 
yet again the forced work programmes for those on benefits fails, all it is, is companies getting free labour from the unemployed in return for donations to the tory party

can't wait for this to end up in court, the human rights act bans slavery

its all well and good giving people RELEVANT experience, but what the hell does this give them

Training for crowd control at a Diamond Jubliee, you know they come around every blue moon :D
 
Quite... people from other countries will travel over here in search of work and will often find it. Lots of people in the UK wouldn't likely even consider moving 100 miles... to quote Norman Tebbit 'get on your bike'
Easy if you have no ties or responsibilities.

What if you have a wife and kid(s), do you all move into a hostel just to please your ridiculous suggestions?

What about people like me who struggled to find a job but was caring for my grandmother, should I have just left her to fend for herself and move just so the thick halfwits who 'pay my benefits' would be pleased?
 
I think a good way to get people back into work (low paid jobs) would be to give a 1 year tax break up to 15k for those who've been LT unemployed for over a year. Then obviously dropping back to 747L or something.

Gives a good chance for people to get back on the horse and make the money go further.

Agreed.
 
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