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By 'sleep rough' do you mean 'in tents'?
Unemployed bussed in to steward jubilee, unpaid and asked to sleep rough
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Most people would go ape if their employer asked them to sleep under a bridge, especially for no extra compensation.
When it comes unemployed? Suddenly change their mind and it is perfectly acceptable.
Strong picking on easy targets. However you are not strong as you think you are, a bit of bad luck and you could be in the same situation. Bussed off to london to sleep under a bridge.
When it comes unemployed? Suddenly change their mind and it is perfectly acceptable.
Strong picking on easy targets. However you are not strong as you think you are, a bit of bad luck and you could be in the same situation. Bussed off to london to sleep under a bridge.
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If someone is long term unemployed and its just as in this case doing 2 days running a public event, etc. I don't think it unreasonable for them not to get any additional pay other than reasonable expenses. Totally another matter if they are made to do what is essentially a day to day job for weeks or months whilest not earning minimum wage thats just poorly disguised slavery.
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I wouldn't be if I was a lazy bum who didn't want to work.
That would be true if the country was overflowing jobs, but its not.
Experienced professionals are finding it hard to get jobs.
Most people don't get their accommodation paid for them. Most people have worked in the last X years. These are 'long term' unemployed. Now whilst some may have good reasons you have to question how some of these people can remain out of work for so long if they really want employment.
Not saying what happened is right. But nor are these unemployed the poor vulnerable angels some people portray them as.
Didn't see any tents in the picture in the OP.
It's easy for people to condemn and complain about others when they themselves are in a position of relative comfort and security. There is a lot of ignorant blatherskite being preached from these people.
It isn't as easy as 'get a job' or being a 'sponger' - there is a real problem for a lot of people. Some people are living in another world.
It isn't as easy as 'get a job' or being a 'sponger' - there is a real problem for a lot of people. Some people are living in another world.
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To be honest, I think it's quite obvious the people who are willing to do this aren't spongers, and are genuinely trying to get work.
That's because it wasn't the campsite. If you read it, it says they where taken to a muddy campsite.
Such a Bs, one sided article.
Let me guess what happened. Bused in on a night/over night bus and had a few hours to kill before the job. End of shift they went to campsite.
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There are plenty of jobs out there, people just don't want to do a lot of them.
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Yeah because some thin canvas really keeps the cold out when you are camped out in the open under a bridge.
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It isn't particularly cold at the moment. Wasnt it just for one night too? Some people need to man up.
Whilest there are a good number who make no effort to actually find a job. It really is pretty tough finding work at the moment. We have people coming in almost daily basically begging for work including people who were former management in woolworths with fairly impressive "resumes" who should be finding work easily on paper.
I wouldn't say plenty of jobs, while there isn't a shortage of jobs being advertised there is a shortage in terms of enough to go around and a lot of places simply aren't hiring at the moment due to the economy.
The problem is there are so many people out of work at the moment that companies can cherry pick exactly the candidate they want in the role in a lot of cases even when there are a fair few jobs available it makes it very hard for instance when we had a team leader position open up recently there were school leavers competing with people with previous upper level management experience.
A night in a travel lodge is the better part of a weeks JSA if they genuinely long term out of work then they probably don't have a huge amount to go around (unless they are long term benefit scroungers who've worked out how to play the system).
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What if you have bills and children to clothe and feed?
They should have gotten at least minimum wage and a travel lodge for the night. Thats what any paid worker would expect, but becuase they are "volunteers" they aren't entitled to what anyone here would normally consider basic treatment. Would you have pulled a 14 hour shift for no extra pay and naught but a tent to sleep in? Didn't think so.
It saddens me everytime a post about the unemployed is made here, because so many seem to think what we see as human rights go out the window if your not working. That and every unemployed person in the UK has been on the dole (circa £150,000 a week) for 45 years and never even applied for a job.