*** The 2012 Gym Rats Thread ***

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LiE said:
No steedie stay away from the bicycle :(
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Thing is m8 its not about opting out, or selling out or wimping out. Its about where you want to be and what you are willing to do to get there. There is a nobility to natty training that cannot be denied, and to those with the genes and the skill to reach the heights of what their body can naturally do it really is something special. But when it comes to outright horsepower and function, its the equivalent of taking off the limiter and opening the throttle, do so at your own risk but the rewards are vast.
 
Morba said:
Are you riding now then? Or just planning a lengthy journey?

Shame we can't be a bit more open about these things :(
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Do you really want this place to turn into BB.com??

I think it's great to keep that **** away from here personally. I think we have amazing lifters, and some guys with great physiques that do it through sacrifice and hard work and good diets.

Sure those guys have to do it too, but you're then pushing the body beyond it's genetic normality - and to me that seems daft.

I've accepted I'm never going to be massive or uber strong, but compared to most of my peers and the general populace I'm in the top 10% if not higher. That'll do for me.

And do you really want to **** around with those things? Even though they're reasonably well researched, I know I'd rather enjoy life without having to worry about what I'm putting down my throat and causing parts of my body to stop functioning.
 
Agree really FF. Rather it wasn't allowed on these forums, if I ever need to learn about the stuff i'll go elsewhere, makes this place a touch nicer for some reason :p

Anyway, Steedie, would you document things on your blog? Or as stated, any other forum? Pics will be needed obviously ;) I need a before and after glute shot as well <3
 
always thought you would turn one day FF but then once you turned away from mass-monstering i suppose there wouldnt be much call for it unless you wanted to compete. If steedie wants to do real comps he flat out has no choice anyway.

However i do agree that this place needs to be kept free of this stuff im going to throw up a wordpress blog and probably steedie might do the same. After that the less said about it the better in here i think
 
Ultra_Extreme said:
always thought you would turn one day FF but then once you turned away from mass-monstering i suppose there wouldnt be much call for it unless you wanted to compete. If steedie wants to do real comps he flat out has no choice anyway.

However i do agree that this place needs to be kept free of this stuff im going to throw up a wordpress blog and probably steedie might do the same. After that the less said about it the better in here i think
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Ir's a shame comps are so heavy on this stuff....Much prefer if it was regulated, I would rather be looking at a natty on stage rather than someone who's boosted themselves up somewhat :p
 
Delvis said:
Ir's a shame comps are so heavy on this stuff....Much prefer if it was regulated, I would rather be looking at a natty on stage rather than someone who's boosted themselves up somewhat :p
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There are natural federations too m8, they also compete, but its like being a motor racing purist, should a car be kept stock or hacked up into a fire breathing hot rod. Which event you would prefer to go watch is up to you.
 
Ultra_Extreme said:
There are natural federations too m8, they also compete, but its like being a motor racing purist, should a car be kept stock or hacked up into a fire breathing hot rod. Which event you would prefer to go watch is up to you.
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Not really related, as it's not illegal to do most things to a car (within reason obviously) :p

But yeah, I know there are some comps that are natural, it's just a shame so many of them are rife with the stuff now
 
It's not illegal to do steroids either, supplying them is a different story, but using for personal use is not breaking the law
 
Delvis said:
Not really related, as it's not illegal to do most things to a car (within reason obviously) :p

But yeah, I know there are some comps that are natural, it's just a shame so many of them are rife with the stuff now
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Its not illegal to do what i am either m8 100% legal in fact you will find. Illegal in the USA and 'illegal' in sports meaning against the rules but not the law.
 
Steedie said:
It's not illegal to do steroids either, supplying them is a different story, but using for personal use is not breaking the law
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True. Phrased that incorrectly actually :p

Don't really know the ins and outs of it, so hey. I guess what i'm inclining towards is that they aren't readily available are they? Well they might be, but they're hardly advertised on your every day nutrition site...And if they are it's the cheap tat that's been posted in the Supps forum
 
Ultra_Extreme said:
always thought you would turn one day FF but then once you turned away from mass-monstering i suppose there wouldnt be much call for it unless you wanted to compete. If steedie wants to do real comps he flat out has no choice anyway.

However i do agree that this place needs to be kept free of this stuff im going to throw up a wordpress blog and probably steedie might do the same. After that the less said about it the better in here i think
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Don't get me wrong, I find it interesting - however I'd never do them. Even when I was after size, and power and strength I just couldn't do it. I don't belittle what people do, but I do lose some respect, not for who they are, but for their achievements.

Also, whilst it is relatively safe if you know what you are doing, it does mess around with your body - no doubts about that. I'm not willing to put my body through something like that just for ego or vanity.

My training has changed as has my priorities. I don't care about being the biggest in the room or the strongest. I want to be strong, powerful and athletic as a balance - not really focusing on one particular aspect. Also just being healthy, and whilst you can be relatively healthy when riding the bike, to get the most out of it you end up not being or having to make sacrifices.

It's just not for me.

Even if I were in my 50s and have already had my kids, the chances of making myself ill is too selfish. I have other people to think about in my life.

I do wish you and Steedie all the best, but whilst I will support you in terms of being a mate, I won't pretend to approve or be impressed by your results down that route. Even pros, I'm not impressed or in awe of anymore really.

Still love you though :) xx
 
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