The UK wants ISPs to store all of their traffic data

opethdisciple · 2 Jul 2012 at 00:16

The UK wants ISPs to store all of your traffic data and slow your connection

Article here.

Sounds like things are going from bad to worse!

Which technology crack pots do they have advising them?

KatanaDV20 · 2 Jul 2012 at 00:25

Ha...and we in the west dare to point fingers @ China. If a UK politician does that now they should be fired and be made to eat reindeer poop in Siberia for a year.

Rroff · 2 Jul 2012 at 00:36

What a complete and utter waste of time, all they will catch is petty criminals and almost anyone with serious intent will either use proprietary encryption/underground networks or avoid the internet entirely.

BlackDragon · 2 Jul 2012 at 00:37

If you feel strongly for your rights on digital and Internet related issues, you should have a look at the the Open Rights Group. They spend their time trying to increase public awareness on such issues, campaign for our rights, and provide advice on how we can get involved.

LizardKing · 2 Jul 2012 at 00:37

KatanaDV20 said:
Ha...and we in the west dare to point fingers @ China. If a UK politician does that now they should be fired and be made to eat reindeer poop in Siberia for a year.

This should be true, unfortunately the general populace has little understanding on the implications of such matters and will simply sign this away.

'Harry · 2 Jul 2012 at 00:42

Can't see it happening if they want re-electing.

KatanaDV20 · 2 Jul 2012 at 00:58

The bad guys must be laughing in their caves. First they watch us with our little plastic bags having our toothpaste confiscated at airports, your grandmas shoes scanned in the x-ray machine and now - a box of tricks to snoop on our emails.

Resident · 2 Jul 2012 at 01:40

KatanaDV20 said:
The bad guys must be laughing in their caves. First they watch us with our little plastic bags having our toothpaste confiscated at airports, your grandmas shoes scanned in the x-ray machine and now - a box of tricks to snoop on our emails.

Bad guys that in all likeliness were/are funded and instructed by western governments in order to instill fear into the populace so we'd willingly allow said governments to erode our civil rights and freedoms under the guise of "protecting" us from those 'bad men'

TheVoice · 2 Jul 2012 at 01:55

Unbelievable. Well, it isn't with the way things have been going so far, but you know what I mean.

Amnesia · 2 Jul 2012 at 01:56

can you imagine the amount of storage space required and how much it would cost.
everytime i download a 16gb game they have to store it no matter how many times i do it ha ha

Overslop · 2 Jul 2012 at 04:10

Amnesia said:
can you imagine the amount of storage space required and how much it would cost.
everytime i download a 16gb game they have to store it no matter how many times i do it ha ha

No, they just mean a record of what has been downloaded/uploaded and by whom.

bitslice · 2 Jul 2012 at 07:45

Perhaps national ISP's will start offering VPN's as an additional service.

RomanNose · 2 Jul 2012 at 10:40

I used to think that we lived in a land of free, but we don't. With other countries trying the same thing on, it seems like CT nuts are actually sounding quite reasonable with the idea that an international force is behind.

twist3d0n3 · 2 Jul 2012 at 10:46

i thought logs of whatever site you went to/downloads initiated etc were already kept?!

Burnsy2023 · 2 Jul 2012 at 10:52

Amnesia said:
can you imagine the amount of storage space required and how much it would cost.

For this reason alone this whole idea is not feasible.

Yamahahahahaha · 2 Jul 2012 at 11:01

twist3d0n3 said:
i thought logs of whatever site you went to/downloads initiated etc were already kept?!

They are but the records can only be accessed in relation to terrorism-related charges.

IronWarrior · 2 Jul 2012 at 11:08

Amnesia said:
can you imagine the amount of storage space required and how much it would cost.
everytime i download a 16gb game they have to store it no matter how many times i do it ha ha

:majorpalmface:

estebanrey · 2 Jul 2012 at 11:21

twist3d0n3 said:
i thought logs of whatever site you went to/downloads initiated etc were already kept?!

Only on your computer via 'history'. Why would ISPs voluntarily set up expensive server farms to stores the billions of messages that run through their servers each week?

Yamahahahahaha said:
They are but the records can only be accessed in relation to terrorism-related charges.

Well no, otherwise this wouldn't be a new law and would just fall under the same rules that allow police officers to obtain phone records (which are kept generally regardless of the state requiring them do specifically do so).

Yaayuh! · 2 Jul 2012 at 11:26

Just an FYI, by "The UK wants" they mean "The British government's Home Office wants". Bit of a generalisation in the article title.

Looks interesting annoying, wonder how it pans out.

PistolPete · 2 Jul 2012 at 11:31

I've always been in the "I have nothing to hide so they (the Government) can monitor what they like" camp, but it's getting to be a bit of a joke with them wanting to log everything these days on the off chance that they might catch someone doing wrong.

I used to be for having a national ID card too, but with the way that data is lost / given away / sold or lost to hacker I'm very much against it - same goes with all this data. It'll cost for them to collect it and no doubt it'll not be stored as securely as I'd hope and probably sold to recoup their costs.