you put beta software on for your parents. No wonder. Full version will come with help. No different to when the start button was first introduced, it came with a big arrow.
Whos staying on Win7 and whos going to Win8?
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you put beta software on for your parents. No wonder. Full version will come with help. No different to when the start button was first introduced, it came with a big arrow.
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Sticking with Windows 7 for my own PC and will use downgrade rights at work to remove the abomination that is Windows 8.
They're hardly computer illiterate, having used windows since 3.1.
I myself had to search for most things online and we all hated metro with a passion. It's just clutter and annoying to use, especially that "charms bar".
Plus Storage Spaces, Bitlocker/secure boot in Pro, native VHD and ISO mounting, native USB3 and 4K disk support, new chkdsk, Microsoft account sign-in, revamped file management dialogs and task manager, Hyper-V, yadda yadda
I think the reality is there aren't actually as many "power users" on here as people like to think.
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I will be staying with win7
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Ok, I should have worded it more for general every day users.
I agree but equally there were tons of people saying they were happy with XP and Vista service packed up etc.
Fair doos, I think this time there's going to be less of a reason to go for Win8 straight away. Probably be more of a gradual shift as people buy new hardware and plop a copy of Win8 in the basket as well.
Of course you'll have to look it up it's not a release version with a tutorial.
Many people don't know about all the finger operations on IOS.
It's absurd to give your presents a unfinished Os and then try to claim it must be difficult as they can't find stuff. Of course they can't.
Of course you'll have to look it up it's not a release version with a tutorial.
Many people don't know about all the finger operations on IOS.
It's absurd to give your presents a unfinished Os and then try to claim it must be difficult as they can't find stuff. Of course they can't.
Of course I coudln't even. This is just a release "Preview" after all.
A preview, you get to have a look to see if you like it.
I like how you're completely ignoring the fact that they and myself do Not like Metro. Like others, we want a fully functional desktop, without having to run things like Classic Shell.
Others here have the same opinion, so just because my parents don't like it you think the point is invalid? No, we simply don't like it.
You have a fully functional desktop so that's rubbish for a start,
It's also rubbish to say its hard to find stuf, off course it's a learning curve, especially when there's no tutorial.
I'm not ignoring the fact you don't like metro, I just don't have an issue with that part of your post. The other two points however are BS.
It's also rubbish to say its hard to find stuf, off course it's a learning curve, especially when there's no tutorial.
I'm not ignoring the fact you don't like metro, I just don't have an issue with that part of your post. The other two points however are BS.
Hardly bs, I hate icons and have none on my desktop. I alos don't like pinning things on my taskbar. I like hitting the windows key and instantly having my programs I use there.
Without having to Load a different screen covered in icons/"tiles", or having to get the mouse pointer just perfect in the bottom left corner to activate the "start menu" aka metro, even though my taskbar is always at the top.
I do not like having to have the mouse pointer in a certain area to get the charms bar or, having to press two keys to make it properlly useable.
Everything I've experienced in W8 is more clicks, more hassle all to do something that was jsut a click or two away at most.
These might all be tiny non issues for you, but I find them all extremely annoying. Why should I pay money to inconvenience myself and my parents and have them learn extra things just because there's a new OS?
Again where have I said you can't dislike metro?
Your other opinions are very much BS. The desktop is still there, fully functioning and great as always, with many good improvements. There's pretty much zero learning curve to desktop.
The only learning curve for desktop is take mouse to bottom right for start menu, rather than bottom right with a label for start menu.
The start menu is now full screen so ou can see far more software on the screen and f course you can still use keyboard short cuts to et to the full list of software, which again is displayed in a far easier and better way.
Your other opinions are very much BS. The desktop is still there, fully functioning and great as always, with many good improvements. There's pretty much zero learning curve to desktop.
The only learning curve for desktop is take mouse to bottom right for start menu, rather than bottom right with a label for start menu.
The start menu is now full screen so ou can see far more software on the screen and f course you can still use keyboard short cuts to et to the full list of software, which again is displayed in a far easier and better way.
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A month or so back my SSD failed so I temporarily put Win8 on as my main OS. I actually liked it once I got used to it and I was kind of treating Metro as a full screen start menu. My mum, who is not very tech savvy, used Win8 just fine without any explanation from me and found it more user friendly in Metro.
The only annoying thing was shutting the computer down which seems well hidden.
I will be getting it when its released and will be looking to get an x86 Win8 tablet.
The only annoying thing was shutting the computer down which seems well hidden.
I will be getting it when its released and will be looking to get an x86 Win8 tablet.
the desktop is not there as great as it always is!
Aero is being removed and I for one loved aero
Start button is gone
and most actions require or forcibly pull you back into metro.
Want to quickly go to start menu while keeping an eye on something else? Can't do that anymore in the new desktop
Desktop Gadgets = removed (again found these very useful)
Aero is being removed and I for one loved aero
Start button is gone
and most actions require or forcibly pull you back into metro.
Want to quickly go to start menu while keeping an eye on something else? Can't do that anymore in the new desktop
Desktop Gadgets = removed (again found these very useful)
It still has all the funcctionality
Oh no it's lost aero. Is that functionality? No it's a slight change in cosmetics.
Start button has gone, everyone knows where the start button is now, there's no need for it to be physically there. Waste of space.
No, most actions do not pull you back to metro, once you change a few settings,mike what file types are associated with.
And how about all the functionality added? And there's a huge amount, look at the features thread.
We don't need gadgets anymore, you have live tiles. Do the same job, in a far neater and standard way.
Oh no it's lost aero. Is that functionality? No it's a slight change in cosmetics.
Start button has gone, everyone knows where the start button is now, there's no need for it to be physically there. Waste of space.
No, most actions do not pull you back to metro, once you change a few settings,mike what file types are associated with.
And how about all the functionality added? And there's a huge amount, look at the features thread.
We don't need gadgets anymore, you have live tiles. Do the same job, in a far neater and standard way.
There's only a few things that appeal to me in Windows 8, Metro UI is such a turn off though, that I wouldn't want to use it on my desktop again.
Except instead of a one screen with everything on it, you have to switch between the Desktop and Metro to do anything, with metro tiles being more annoying than anything.
It's funny how you're probably the only person around here who's been defending Metro as a better alternative to Aero in desktops.
Except instead of a one screen with everything on it, you have to switch between the Desktop and Metro to do anything, with metro tiles being more annoying than anything.
It's funny how you're probably the only person around here who's been defending Metro as a better alternative to Aero in desktops.
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Thing is MS will really push Metro, and no doubt sponsor/develop some "killer" apps that won't appear on Windows 7. At the moment it's just fluff, but I can see the apps getting better.
If people don't upgrade then they'll lock themselves out of that content - or if they decide to upgrade late in the day, they'll miss out on the introductory pricing...
Way I see it is that with Win8 we'll almost have 2 OS's running as one. I've got a perfectly useable Win 8 desktop for all my current stuff, and I'll be able to benefit from anything new on the Win8 Metro apps front in the future.
Sure the design and layout of Metro isn't to everyone's taste, but after a few hours of familiarisation it's not the doom and gloom a lot of people are making out - it seems like a lot of this is down to reluctance to change.
If people don't upgrade then they'll lock themselves out of that content - or if they decide to upgrade late in the day, they'll miss out on the introductory pricing...
Way I see it is that with Win8 we'll almost have 2 OS's running as one. I've got a perfectly useable Win 8 desktop for all my current stuff, and I'll be able to benefit from anything new on the Win8 Metro apps front in the future.
Sure the design and layout of Metro isn't to everyone's taste, but after a few hours of familiarisation it's not the doom and gloom a lot of people are making out - it seems like a lot of this is down to reluctance to change.
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Well, I sill have the Metro stuff - juts because full-screen apps on a 24" monitor seem a bit of waste of good space and , probably because there a few , if any, really good apps yet. However, as pointed out the desktop is there and fully functional and a start button is available with Classic Shell so we can't complain really.
So, earlier on in one for the Windows 8 threads, I said I wouldn't buy it unless the price was about the same as Lion and now the upgrade will be just that - unless the dollars = pounds happens - so, yes, I will upgrade. I hope this is a good decision, though, but if it isn't its not that much lost.
So, earlier on in one for the Windows 8 threads, I said I wouldn't buy it unless the price was about the same as Lion and now the upgrade will be just that - unless the dollars = pounds happens - so, yes, I will upgrade. I hope this is a good decision, though, but if it isn't its not that much lost.
Agreed - I think if I had a touch screen device that was more compatible (it may be more compatible on release) then I'd certainly have a Windows 8 device.
I just find it hard for mouse / keyboard use and I also don't think it works well in an office environment. We are continually locking things down and writing procedures based on a 'traditional' desktop so it's a big exercise to re-write everything. The dual desktop is also another issue. It's a mixed message and would have been easier if they just went one way or the other.
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