Family class?

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Would you describe your family as working class or middle class? And what do you base your classification on? (what is your parents/family trade?).

Also, do you wish it was different/better?
 
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Doesn't everyone always say, every time the class threads come up, that it's based mainly on upbringing? So asking what your "family class" is is practically exactly the same as asking what your class is, which has been done dozens of times before.
 
Working class, my family are pretty much retarded when it comes to work (simple jobs etc) and I'm the only one who's going to bring my name to the upper class.

Deal with it.
 
My Family history and Family are Upper class/middle class how ever me and my mom who live here in the UK are working class we don't get anything from the family or benefit from them being so well off at all and we do not need it.

Honestly I wouldn't consider myself middle class unless I was earning above 70/80k had my own paid off house and was able to afford to mortgage another. I think once you get to the point you own debt free your own property and earn a decent amount and can actually live life without worrying about not having somewhere to live you can truely feel as if your not working class anymore.
I however am studying at the moment so wont be working for a while but once I finish i fully intend to setup something meaningful so my future generations do not have to suffer through lots of hard work and effort!
 
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Firmly middle-class.

That said I'm a big fan of working class pride, anything that helps keep the menial workers happy and in their place while leaving all the decent jobs for everyone else has to be appreciated!
 
My family history is upper class, great grand parents on father's side owned a arge porcelline factory , WW2 put an end to that (factory bombed to nothing). My parent were middle class by education and pbringing, both with PhDs, my dad was a professor before retiring. I was raised middle class but my parents ended up n financial difficulties so economically I was working class.

I have a phd, travel the world for work, command a reasonable salary. I consider myself middle class.
 
My family history is upper class, great grand parents on father's side owned a arge porcelline factory , WW2 put an end to that (factory bombed to nothing). My parent were middle class by education and pbringing, both with PhDs, my dad was a professor before retiring. I was raised middle class but my parents ended up n financial difficulties so economically I was working class.

I have a phd, travel the world for work, command a reasonable salary. I consider myself middle class.

Owning factory and industry doesn't make you upper-class sorry, upper class in Britain means landed gentry, aristocracy, and members of 'society'. Upper class means 'old money' as a category, and industrial wealth and money from industry is decidedly not upper class, in fact it's new money, nouveau riche, arrivistes, etc. and it is actually looked down upon. Your great-grandparents became rich as part of the industrial bourgeoisie, who aspire towards upper-class property ownership but have to basically 'buy' all of their status with material wealth. Upper class people in the British system normally insist on heredity, tradition, long lineages, etc. and the family estate is normally always owned and inherited, not bought. Upper class people appear in society 'who's who' magazines, they have debutantes balls and all enjoy a good gossip and hunt with one another.

Ironically, in the British system the upper-classes are actually very often much less rich than the affluent middle-classes. Their 'wealth' is in social and cultural capital, rather than material wealth. The old dictum, "you can't buy class", etc.

Not meaning to rain on your parade or anything, but so many people say they are upper-class when they are not.

As for middle-class, I would say it depends on tastes and socio-cultural norms... for one thing university-education as a commonplace is a major factor in class stratification. Professional jobs don't necessarily mean middle-class so much as (private) education, mannerism, culture, taste, etc. A hard-working professional 'well-to-do' working class family would probably never go to the theatre, or enjoy polo, or hunt, or anything like that - even if they could afford it. Middle-classness in Britain is much more traditional and cultural, rather than money based (the middle-class as an economic group, mostly denoting 'comfortable', tends to be an American classification). A safe and sound guarantee of always making it to the upper echelons of the middle-classes are the traditional professions: academia, law, medicine, etc. But again, lacking a blood-line to be upper-class. They are merely at the top of the mobile middle-classes through their hard-work and ambition.

As most of my family are public school educated, I'd say we're upper-middle class. To be upper we'd need ties to the aristocracy or gentry which we sadly/gladly (take your pick) do not have. I'm completely indifferent, but I'm young and naive and like to believe in idealistic fallacies such as meritocracies.

I also don't understand why people feel the need to bash the working-class here, or make snide remarks. The only true comment that makes is one about your own insecurity.
 
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My great grand parents were not British, the factory and mansion was inherited and they had links to, aristocracy? Do I particularly care, no. I now live in the Us and tend to use their class system.
 
My great grand parents were not British, the factory and mansion was inherited and they had links to, aristocracy? Do I particularly care, no. I now live in the Us and tend to use their class system.

You misunderstand. British class-system is based on bloodline and ennoblement. Inheriting a factory is not the same as inheriting a country seat to a baronetcy or such like. It's new money vs. old money, that tired debate. Upper-class tends to be reserved to old-money inbred classes in Britain.

Confusing that you'd talk about non-British relatives using non-British terms in a thread about the UK class system.

There are too many people self-describing themselves as 'upper class' for it to ever make sense and have validity.
 
Since when has this thread been about archaic system solely within Britain. This is the 21st century on the international Internet. Social class these days is more defined by upbringing, societal values, career, political views, etc.

I don't think anyone here is saying they are upper class.
Besides why I dont give a flying fig, I value people based on their behaviors and attitudes, not their blood line or financials.
 
Probably middle class. Dad's a chemical engineer while mom is a production manager at a multinational. Or maybe that's even working class. Don't know, don't really care.
 
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