American white supremacist unable to tell the difference between Sikhs & Muslims?
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Yes i am aware of this, but that does not justify the assumtion that sikhs dislike muslims.
ermmm I didn't make a generalisation... I said lots of Sikhs I know, and even clarified it for you earlier... though the article certainly supports the fact that tensions/violence between the communities do exist in several parts of the UK
please do link to some articles regarding Buddhist vs Christian violence in the UK
why make that assumption then - is this all just one big reading comprehension fail on your part?
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Didnt realise Kashmir was in the UK?
Like i said im aware there are some tensions in certain parts, that does not add weight to your generalistion.
I still dont see your point you were trying to make, how does the handful of Sikh's you know add weight to your statement.
Wait, let's get something clear.
Are you (dowie) saying that your friends hate Muslims, or hate Islam?
As for the India/Pakistan conflict, it's just all a bunch of retards who can't stop being whiny little bitches over some crappy bits if land. They could've all been the same religion, it probably wouldn't have made a difference. Morons will be morons, whatever their religion.
Are you (dowie) saying that your friends hate Muslims, or hate Islam?
As for the India/Pakistan conflict, it's just all a bunch of retards who can't stop being whiny little bitches over some crappy bits if land. They could've all been the same religion, it probably wouldn't have made a difference. Morons will be morons, whatever their religion.
what generalisation?
I thought I explained my point back here - not that it should really require explaining as its logically rather obvious
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=22509081&postcount=35
also note how it is in reference to sikhs who dislike muslims not all sikhs... "(and assuming a sikh who dislikes muslims) "
and note further that this has all originated from an off topic comment made in reference to another post made on the first page....
I'd say that there wasn't much love lost between the sikhs and muslims I went to school with - they didn't socialise together and there were fights between the groups... there were also tensions in the local community
and yes, if one of the sikhs I went to school with went to the US on holiday, and was mistaken for a muslim... he'd likely be extra miffed as a result
See the second bit of my post you quoted.
It started when Pakistan beat India in one cricket match
Not fair, Pakistan were hacking!!! They had Aimbots all over the place
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The whole Hindu+Sikh vs Muslims thing goes back hundreds and hundreds of years and is full of history and misinformation to the point it's a self perpetuating conflict with no real cause. It's not the complete story but as I understand it Sikhs are quite against the use of force to convert people to your religion, so clashed with Islam pretty much since Sikhism was founded. My ex, who is Sikh, took great pleasure in reminding me of a few occasions where Hindus were being forced to convert to Islam and refused to do so, doing the stereotypical Hindu thing of passive resistance, only to be rescued by Sikhs who didn't mind using force to prevent the conversions. Sikhs and Hindus though in my experience are generally seen side by side 'against' Islam also have their differences, for example when the Indian Prime Minister sent troops into one of Sikhism's holiest sites as it was being occupied by Sikh terrorists and it ended in a bloodbath.
Source: personal experience. There is undoubtedly a deep-seated mistrust between Hindus+Sikhs and Muslims, both sides as irrational as each other.
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Source: personal experience. There is undoubtedly a deep-seated mistrust between Hindus+Sikhs and Muslims, both sides as irrational as each other.
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though I'd be inclined to agree on some levels its still a rather simplistic view - there is a lot of historical tension there in some cases and if someone has been indoctrinated into it then its easy to see how it perpetuates...
Not fair, Pakistan were hacking!!! They had Aimbots all over the place
/nerdrage
But India was using no-clip, what other choice did they have?I'd still say that's more to do with two communities hating eachither possibly combined with living in a rougher area.
You have 2 peaceful religions, in theory they should be getting along just fine...
That's not the point. Pakistan used HAX!
true... certainly a factor - same with northern ireland too... less well off areas in Belfast etc.. being the most prone to violence
not sure about the 'peaceful religions'* for example in theory apostasy is punishable by death in Islam.. allegations of attempts to convert people from either to the other were one of the sources of community tensions...
yes it got ridiculous - common rumour being that one group was trying to convert girls from the other group... certainly got groups of youths stirred up it seemed
*then again this topic in itself could ignite another series of postings... which I don't have time for tonight
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How does your personal experience of Sikh's that dislike Muslims have any relevance to the murdered Sikh's in America? or Sikh's as a whole.. it doesnt. Insinuating like its something they share in common with the white extremists.
And again, with India and Pakistan references, which is a localised conflict and if push came to shove its actually the Hindus's and Muslims in THAT part of the world having the majority of the conflicts. Irrelavent to the topic at hand, its not hard to distinguish conflict between nations and said religions as a whole.
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It doesn't, it was an off topic comment quoting another off topic comment made by another posted which you've decided to turn into a two page argument thus derailing the entire thread. you have then seemingly got butt hurt over the fact I went to school with some sikhs who don't like muslims and have pointed out that instances of sikhs and muslims not liking each other has manifested itself in different communities across the uk...
maybe you went to a mostly white private school and were the only ethnic kid or something but your complete head in the sand take on the idea of some muslims and sikhs not getting along is ridiculous. And no at no point have I stated that all sikhs hate muslims or even that the majority do.
Overall you seem to just want to pick a fight and make incorrect assumptions/conclusions whenever anyone mentions Muslims. Sort of like the Muslim equivalent of 'militant black guy':
(edited link to dailymotion clip as it contains swearing - google him, he's quite funny)
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Yep thats it, you hit the nail on the head
So you make an OFF TOPIC, irrelavent and insinuating comment, which you were challanged on and im derailing the thread? Only one who seems buthurt is you since you cant just admit your comment was nonsense.
Funny enough you accuse me of making assumtions when its what you have been doing all along, in respect to ASSUMING the murdered American Sikh's share the same view as your racist group of friends
I have all ready stated that i am aware the some Sikh and Muslim communities dont get along, but hey dont let the facts get in the way of your drivel.
Why is white supremacist used towards a racist white person yet not used against racist people of other races? if you look at crime statistics in the US there are far more black on white crimes but the media would have us believe we're out there picking on poor minorities.