FTTH help required

panyan

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Right guys, I really need your advise with this one:

- The house has been newly renovated so the install needs to be as clean and professional as possible

- The route for the cabling must go through the garage to the back of the house and then routed to the appropriate rooms - nothing can go through the front walls (missus orders :rolleyes:)

Internet: first floor, back of the house
TV: ground floor, back of the house
Phone: ground floor, back of the house

- If needs be I can install the cabling or a private company

- I havent decided upon a fibre optic provider yet but i am a heavy usenet user so that needs to be taken into consideration

- The package being taken out will be for telephone, TV and internet - probably one of the top packages I imagine


I know it is a lot of things to consider which is precisely why I am asking the forum gurus :)
 
If you go with a BT backed fibre solution the service will be provided over or adjacent to the BT Master Socket (which I presume is already in the house somewhere).

If you go with Virgin they will pick the shortest distance from the trunk to your house and enter there. You wont get a great deal of say on the matter I'm afraid - kinda take it or leave it.

How you route cables internally is an entirely different matter. Its a shame this wasnt considered as part of the renovation rather than tacked on afterward as cutting holes and tracking walls is much easier to cover up if you are plastering or decorating later.

Your options are basically to draw Cat5/6 around the house (if you are concerned about neatness consider getting it done professionally); use wireless; use Homeplugs.
 
sidethink said:
If you go with a BT backed fibre solution the service will be provided over or adjacent to the BT Master Socket (which I presume is already in the house somewhere).

BT backed? what fibre ISP's are BT backed? :)

If you go with Virgin they will pick the shortest distance from the trunk to your house and enter there. You wont get a great deal of say on the matter I'm afraid - kinda take it or leave it.

Is there a way to pay virgin media or a private company to so this as i want it?

How you route cables internally is an entirely different matter. Its a shame this wasnt considered as part of the renovation rather than tacked on afterward as cutting holes and tracking walls is much easier to cover up if you are plastering or decorating later.

So i could route the ethernet cables myself but they would have the say over the router location? hmmm something to think about

Your options are basically to draw Cat5/6 around the house (if you are concerned about neatness consider getting it done professionally);

this seems like the best alternative

use wireless; use Homeplugs.

cant unfortunately, ethernet only
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KIA said:
Are you definitely able to get FTTH?

It's probably FTTC or cable.
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I'm trying to work this out too? I think he means FTTC, which will be backed off to either BT or Virgin Media (unless there are some specialist ISPs in the area).

[Edit] Seen update above, if you go with BT or Sky it'll be located where your master socket is currently installed.
 
None of those are fibre, with Virgin it's a co-ax cable and with BT / Sky it's the same cable your phone line comes in on at the moment.
 
With co-ax or phone cable you can easily cable from the master socket to somewhere else where you want the router (although from what I understand of DSL (I'm a cable user entirely) you should have the router as close to the master socket as possible for best service). From the router you can just run Ethernet cables to where they are needed.


panyan said:
How do the other services (like TV) come in then? they split from one main box or something?
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With Virgin media, I have a box on the wall where a single co-ax cable comes out of, this is connected to a splitter where 1 cable runs off to the modem in a different room, and another cable runs a couple feet to my V+ set top box. It even hard a 3rd cable on the splitter at one point leading to a secondary set top box in a bedroom, but this has since been disconnected.
 
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Caged said:
None of those are fibre, with Virgin it's a co-ax cable and with BT / Sky it's the same cable your phone line comes in on at the moment.
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Not neccessarily. BT Infinity Option 3 is currently 100Mbit fibre direct to the home but being upgraded to 330Mbit in the near future.

I know FTTH has very limited availability right now but I'm not sure why people seem to not be aware it exists.
 
Dist said:
With Virgin media, I have a box on the wall where a single co-ax cable comes out of, this is connected to a splitter where 1 cable runs off to the modem in a different room, and another cable runs a couple feet to my V+ set top box. It even hard a 3rd cable on the splitter at one point leading to a secondary set top box in a bedroom, but this has since been disconnected.
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In that case would it be possible for me/private company to put coax cables through the house exactly where we want it and then have VM install the boxes at the ends of the lines?
 
panyan said:
In that case would it be possible for me/private company to put coax cables through the house exactly where we want it and then have VM install the boxes at the ends of the lines?
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You will have to ask VM, I don't see why they wouldn't allow it as it would be easier for the guy who's installing it (he would just wire a cable from the co-ax entry point to the cable you have already laid), but then again they may not agree with it as it's not their own cables and their work so they can't guarantee the service quality.

So make sure you contact them before getting anyone in to actually lay the cables for you.
 
I know a guy that dug his own trench down his driveway, and put in a draw rope.. so that when VM arrived they had minimal fuss.

We the engineers arrived, they even said if he'd rung through he could have acquired and pulled the cabling himself. This was many years ago when they were NTL, mind.
 
Right then guys, thanks for all the advice - ive been researching for half the day and am happy with the procedure now

thanks again :)
 
panyan said:
I understand that now, thank you.

I assumed that when they said "Fibre optic" connection it was right to the house (FTTP) and not just FTTC.
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To be fair - I despise their advertising campaigns... surprised no-ones sued them over it yet for false advertising.

They both claim it's "fibre optic broadband"... yet we only see copper wires & coaxial coming in to the house.

By that push of the term... broadband for the last 10+ years has all been "fibre optic broadband" as the trunks from exchanges have been fibre for a long long time.
 
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