GTX 660 Ti for £243 worth it?

[tommybhoy]

No. Physx is a joke and never worth paying for.

Your preference should lie in what gives you the best performance for the money.

I curently have an MSI 7870, but I want a quieter card and physx. I also prefer Nvidia.

Should I swop my 7870 for the 660 Ti?

Instead of attacking Nvidia users(again), maybe try and help the op?

Your making fellow AMD users cringe here spoffle, seriously.


Was I ever that aggressive in the past Gregster?

To answer the op, It's a bit extreme, it would only be a viable option(at a push) if you were upgrading to 670, but even at that it's costly considering AMD's game changing price cuts.

Not got an old 9800gt kicking about perchance you can pop in and run Hybrid PhysX?

 

[spoffle]

Yeah, no. I didn't mention anything about AMD in that post now did I?

It was in reference to saying "I prefer nVidia", prefer best value for money. Maybe you don't really know what "attacking" is?

You say "AMD users" as if it's some sort of status symbol, why does the graphics card I use have anything to do with whether PhysX is worth paying out for, and whatever is the best value for money?

I'm not an "AMD user", I'm a PC enthusiast. I don't "prefer" AMD, I dislike nVidia for things that nVidia does, it has nothing to do with AMD.

If a third company came on the scene, I'd buy them if their price was right for the performance, that's not something that happens with nVidia very often though.

As for "agressive", it's not aggressive it's called being blunt.

 

[tommybhoy]

No problem, past posting builds up a character(for me anyway), it certainly comes across as aggressive/attacking from where I'm sitting, op wants PhysX, pointless exercise informing him that it's rubbish and going into detail.

Only trying to help keep some karma spoffle, nothing more.

 

[Gregster]

Instead of attacking Nvidia users(again), maybe try and help the op?

Your making fellow AMD users cringe here spoffle, seriously.


Was I ever that aggressive in the past Gregster?

To answer the op, It's a bit extreme, it would only be a viable option(at a push) if you were upgrading to 670, but even at that it's costly considering AMD's game changing price cuts.

Not got an old 9800gt kicking about perchance you can pop in and run Hybrid PhysX?

I gave in Tommy because it seems every post Spoffle does is just looking for an argument. Somebody wants advice on switching GPU's and asks "Is it worth it?" My first answer is a clear and simple "No". (I was cream crackered and probably should have stayed out of the thread).

Spoffle gives a clear and definite "PhysX is a joke". I seriously couldn't be bothered to argue last night.

Me and you will argue till the cows come home Tommy but it is always done in a polite and sometimes humorous way. Spoffle just goes on the Attack from the off. He does not read what the OP asks (as I proved in another thread) and he goes off on a tangent.

Well done for pointing out that the OP "Wants PhysX" and you know 'from experience' that adding a dedicated PhysX card works nicely along side AMD cards. Personally I have no idea how this works but can deffo see the benefits of it.

@ OP, have you thought about adding a dedicated PhysX card or is that not an option?

 

[Gregster]

Uhh my brain. You asked me a question, I answered it. You claim to have no idea, then suggest there could ever be an argument? How could you argue back with what I've said, while claiming not to know what you're talking about?

The fact that I own AMD has absolutely nothing to do with anything. Why does a criticism of nVidia equate to anything AMD related?

You lose me. Maybe you spent your pocket money on a card that you are not fully happy with and feel the need to attack anybody that does not own AMD or even hints at switching? I own Nvidia but with the current price of AMD cards, I recommend AMD...It is a no brainer and as for the OP switching sides, unless the OP is hardware limited, Tommy gave the best answer.

 

[tommybhoy]

Gregster, you never win arguments with me anyway lol.


The forums about advice, not blinded narrow mindedness imo.

I have argued my point in the past until I'm blueeek: thank god there's Italian blood in my veins) in the face, but would like to think I'm not being a **** about it.

gregster.

 

[Rusty0611]

Gregster, you never win arguments with me anyway lol.


The forums about advice, not blinded narrow mindedness imo.

gregster.

+1 the bit in bold.

 

[Gregster]

Our opinions will differ and this is what makes us human. Marmite for instance I hate but others love it. AMD I hate but others love it (joke that btw). My point is our opinions will differ over most things but we will try and advise to the best of our "user" knowledge. If I am wrong, I will be the first to appologise (good job I never am).

I will say this though....When i brought my 680, i couldnt see it loosing to the 7970 so i was well happy but now i see they are pretty much level and neither of them loose.

 

[psychodil]

^^ think I detect a rusty wind up there

 

[Gregster]

^^ think I detect a rusty wind up there

Like I would.....

 

[Rusty0611]

They were always level

 

[spoffle]

You lose me. Maybe you spent your pocket money on a card that you are not fully happy with and feel the need to attack anybody that does not own AMD or even hints at switching? I own Nvidia but with the current price of AMD cards, I recommend AMD...It is a no brainer and as for the OP switching sides, unless the OP is hardware limited, Tommy gave the best answer.

Uhh, you really can't see beyond your own world of nVidia versus AMD can you?

What I've said, has nothing to do with AMD, yet you keep bringing them up.

It's not about switching, and you asked me "why", I gave you "why", what is there to complain about?

There wasn't a tangent, had you not asked me why and I posted all that, maybe I'd see where you were coming from.

You admitted to not actually having a clue about what you were talking about, so of course you couldn't argue, it had nothing to do with being tired.

I'm not being aggressive, I'm just straight to the point, maybe you don't like that and it gives you sore bottom or something because I'm not wrapping my posts up in cotton wool and sprinkling them with sugar and glitter.

It makes me cringe how a criticism of nVidia ends up being something about AMD here though.

How has PhysX being a joke got anything to do with nVidia? It's not like it's unwarranted comments about PhysX.

It is being squandered, they could do so much more with it, but in the real world they won't, so most people simply won't buy in to it which is a massive massive shame because really, it has a massive potential.

Maybe I should offer a doughnut cushion free for the first 5 readers of my posts?

 

[Gregster]

Uhh, you really can't see beyond your own world of nVidia versus AMD can you?

Good to see you went straight on the attack. Nice one

What I've said, has nothing to do with AMD, yet you keep bringing them up.

I don't care what you said, I was using the OP's question of switching from AMD to Nvidia. You will attack Nvidia even though I told the Op it wasn't worth it. Get off your high horse and take a chill pill. The OP wants PhysX and Tommy gave the best advice, you just slated it probably without ever using it.

It's not about switching, and you asked me "why", I gave you "why", what is there to complain about?

It is about switching because that is what the OP wants. Again you go off on a tangent.

There wasn't a tangent, had you not asked me why and I posted all that, maybe I'd see where you were coming from.

I should have known not to ask you why because of your aggressive manor. You belittle people and if they dare to mention AMD drivers having problems (which they do(I linked to a previous thread showing loads of people having driver issues)) you go straight on the attack. Rroff in a previous thread dared to say both had problems and yet you went on full scale Nvidia attack and mentioning issues Nvidia had years ago...Get with the now and get out the past.

You admitted to not actually having a clue about what you were talking about, so of course you couldn't argue, it had nothing to do with being tired.

Before you edited your post about PhysX, you also stated "you didn't know for sure". Don't go and read up on Wikipedia and then make out you know it all when in your first instance you knew nothing. I have noticed in many of your posts how you edit them after the event.

I'm not being aggressive, I'm just straight to the point, maybe you don't like that and it gives you sore bottom or something because I'm not wrapping my posts up in cotton wool and sprinkling them with sugar and glitter.

Sore bottom - cotton wool - sugar & glitter...You seriously have anger issues.

It makes me cringe how a criticism of nVidia ends up being something about AMD here though.

lmao...Pot/Kettle/Black?

How has PhysX being a joke got anything to do with nVidia? It's not like it's unwarranted comments about PhysX.

You say unwarranted but others say they are happy with it. I see you are not leaving that statement for discussion though.

It is being squandered, they could do so much more with it, but in the real world they won't, so most people simply won't buy in to it which is a massive massive shame because really, it has a massive potential.

Maybe I should offer a doughnut cushion free for the first 5 readers of my posts?

I don't seee why that comment is there? With those kind of statements I see you intend to anger people and basicaly that makes you a troll.

Anytime I see you post I cringe tbh as I feel you never offer decent advice but only offer up an argument. I can see you have some brains, so why not use it in an earnest way instead of making yourself look like a tool? I feel sorry for any thread starters that have the pleasure of your posts. You have spoiled many threads here with tosh. I actually feel sympathy for you.

 

[Buckster]

tempted with an upgrade - but am I right in thinkng a 660ti is no real faster than a 480 SOC I bought 18 months ago for £200 ?

 

[humbug]

tempted with an upgrade - but am I right in thinkng a 660ti is no real faster than a 480 SOC I bought 18 months ago for £200 ?

Well, Toms Hardware (who were probably the only ones prepared to show the GTX 660ti's weaknesses) had it 7% faster than a stock GTX 580, so yeah, i would think so.

 

[Buckster]

thanks humbug - well that shows (1) how little progress GPUs have made and (2) how expensive they've become

 

[humbug]

thanks humbug - well that shows (1) how little progress GPUs have made and (2) how expensive they've become

I know, its why people in the know skip a generation before upgrading unless they have money to burn.

but at least this time we are getting something new and better, with both NV and AMD going from 4## to 5## and especially AMD from with 5### to 6### they were the same GPU tweaked and re-branded.

 

[tommybhoy]

You forgot:

(3) I got my gpu for an absolute steal at the time.

But yes, they are/were shockingly expensive.

Is the red team out?

As bang for buck is in a different league at the moment buckster.

I actually feel sympathy for you.

I'm actually reminded of a certain poster with a twisted mix of Rod Sterling thrown in for good measure:

'There is a fifth dimension, beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition. Tonight we are venturing into a planet called Earth where Nvidia are the underdogs, Bhavv switched on his PC and logged into OcUK's forums and began arguing with Nvidia users...'

 

[spoffle]

Anytime I see you post I cringe tbh as I feel you never offer decent advice but only offer up an argument. I can see you have some brains, so why not use it in an earnest way instead of making yourself look like a tool? I feel sorry for any thread starters that have the pleasure of your posts. You have spoiled many threads here with tosh. I actually feel sympathy for you.

Oooh lawd.

Good to see you went straight on the attack. Nice one

I don't believe you know what an attack is now.

I don't care what you said, I was using the OP's question of switching from AMD to Nvidia. You will attack Nvidia even though I told the Op it wasn't worth it. Get off your high horse and take a chill pill. The OP wants PhysX and Tommy gave the best advice, you just slated it probably without ever using it.

High horse about what? I pointed out things about PhsyX then furthered it when you asked why.

It is about switching because that is what the OP wants. Again you go off on a tangent.

No, what I said wasn't about switching. Geez.

I should have known not to ask you why because of your aggressive manner. You belittle people and if they dare to mention AMD drivers having problems (which they do(I linked to a previous thread showing loads of people having driver issues)) you go straight on the attack. Rroff in a previous thread dared to say both had problems and yet you went on full scale Nvidia attack and mentioning issues Nvidia had years ago...Get with the now and get out the past.

It's not my fault if you feel belittled. No one's being attacked, and I think you need to get over that now.

What I said to Rroff was quite relevant, and here's a hint, I wasn't the only one commenting about what he said.

It's regardless how many "years" have passed or whatever you want to complain, since people are generally talking about "track records", it's all relevant.

Before you edited your post about PhysX, you also stated "you didn't know for sure". Don't go and read up on Wikipedia and then make out you know it all when in your first instance you knew nothing.

Yet I linked to an article explaining it, that had nothing to do with Wiki? There's a huge difference in not knowing for sure about something, and stating you have no idea about something.

I have noticed in many of your posts how you edit them after the event.

That's what an edit button is for. If I'm editing a post, generally it's to add to it or fix something I misspelt or something. You seem quite paranoid about something.

Sore bottom - cotton wool - sugar & glitter...You seriously have anger issues.

Ah, an arm chair psychologist too! Anger issues? Oh wow, I'm the most mild mannered person I know.

You keep confusing "anger", "aggression" and "attacks" with being blunt, disagreeing with what you've said, and arguing a point.

Just because you don't seem to be able to hold an argument, it doesn't mean it's some way my fault or issue.

lmao...Pot/Kettle/Black?

But you're not really laughing are you? Why do pots and kettles have to be black any way? Mine's chrome.

If some one is talking smack about something, I'll point it out. If some one talks smack about something AMD related that I know isn't true, I'll say something.

You say unwarranted but others say they are happy with it. I see you are not leaving that statement for discussion though.

I don't think you get the point of a discussion forum. Some people are happy with it, I don't think that's ever been up for debate.

There's nothing actually "wrong" with PhysX effects, there's nothing to be unhappy about when it comes to those effects. It's all about paying extra for them. I recall most people who say they're happy, also say that they like it but wouldn't pay more for the effects.

I've been refuting things that you've said, and you don't like it, some how it's my fault too.

I don't seee why that comment is there? With those kind of statements I see you intend to anger people and basicaly that makes you a troll.

Well, you don't really know what "troll" means, and WHY would what I've said anger people?

You claim I have anger issues (ah, haha, hahaha) and then say me saying PhysX is a bit rubbish and is being wasted and so on, is to anger people? What sensible balanced individual would get angry at what I've said?

The sooner you get over the whole AMD versus nVidia thing the better, because while you're still hung up on it you can't see any criticisms about nVidia being valid, you just see it as an AMD bias.

AMD and nVidia have got plenty of things to be criticised about, it just so happens that nVidia have more of them.

Additionally, I don't believe you're really reading my posts properly anyway, I think you have in your head, something you think I'm going to say, and read my posts as if I've said imaginary things. You should stop that.

 

[humbug]

nvidia IMO are every bit as good as AMD cards, the competition between them is as good as something like that could possibly get, nvidia are no underdogs.

Its simply that AMD tend to be cheaper performance vs performance.

Its just a real shame that right now AMD can't do the same with CPU's in terms of performance.

But hopefully they will catch up enough with Piledriver.