University advice

Why not get bladdered when you are doing a MPharm? Just go out get bladdered every night and have fun. Surely it's the same as med school - cannula in before going out, get in attach 1L of saline couple of vitamin tablets, and bang in the ondansetron when you wake up. Never get a hangover that way.
 
pitchfork said:
Ridiculous because I plan for good employment on graduation?

People go to uni then come out and worry about a job, and wonder why no one will employ them. Because you ****ed it up the wall for three years and have a 2:1 or a 2:2 and no experience, no factors to set you apart.

I'm not stupid enough to get sucked into that trap, they're all kids, the lot of them with. I've not come to university to do a pointless course like "drama" or "media studies" no, I've come to do business and for one reason, I want to make money.

I've researched the firms I want to work for, what they look for, what would be in my favour. Typical paths of the graduates within the firm.
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When I read through this thread, I was half expecting you to be studying one of the sciences, or English/History, but having arrogance over the subject you do, when it's business studies, is quite laughable.
 
Dabbles said:
YOU'LL get a shock when you get to work in the real world!

I've seen LOADS of people just like you. They think they're all that, but they aren't as good as they think they are. Straight out of university and think they know it all. They don't.

There are some people, who don't blow their own trumpets, who are wayyyy better than you will ever be. They might not have the qualifications or the obviously privileged lifestyle you have (presumably because of your parents), but they have experience or knowledge that can't be transferred through academia.

Just remember that.
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Ha, parents. I don't take anything from my parents.
Had multiple paper rounds 11-16, worked since I was 16 all the way through education, paid for everything I own today.
Largely because my parents don't have any money, so what I want I will go out and get.

Also, it really doesn't matter if you think I'm cocky. Maybe I am a bit, I don't deny I still have a lot to learn, which is one of the things I look for in anywhere I consider as a graduate employer. But I maintain I am better than most people that come out of university and walk into a job not knowing what the **** they are doing.
 
flibbage0 said:
Going to start uni soon and I just want some advice/heads up as to what to expect or how to cope when the going gets tough.

Have mixed emotions at the moment, excited that I'm moving on but also slightly nervous as to whether I'll be able to cope with the workload and new surroundings and etc.
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Whether you'll cope? How to cope when the going gets tough?

Well you pretend you're a man and then man up!

You're an adult now kid, you'll be fine.
 
pitchfork said:
Ha, parents. I don't take anything from my parents.
Had multiple paper rounds 11-16, worked since I was 16 all the way through education, paid for everything I own today.
Largely because my parents don't have any money, so what I want I will go out and get.

Also, it really doesn't matter if you think I'm cocky. Maybe I am a bit, I don't deny I still have a lot to learn, which is one of the things I look for in anywhere I consider as a graduate employer. But I maintain I am better than most people that come out of university and walk into a job not knowing what the **** they are doing.
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pitchfork said:
You're entitled to think that, I'm safe in the knowledge I know more about marketing that most of the people in the department I currently work.
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You think you know more. I wonder whether they have the same opinion as you. Do people say that to you, does your superior say that to you?

You know we all think we are special when we are young - very few of us actually are and the ones that truly are generally owe their positions more to luck, circumstance and connections than any intrinsic talent.
 
When I'm in a situation that requires me to blow my own trumpet, I tend to do so without mentioning or comparing the abilities of anyone else. Doing so really doesn't sound very good... as demonstrated by some of the responses in this thread!
 
I breezed through uni with very few issues, to the point I could pull A's without turning up to more than 1 lecture.
Believe me when I say this, it means sod all when you get into the real world. You know nothing.
 
I started a degree but very quickly got bored with it started working at a telecoms company as a call centre advisor and within 3 years had moved up to Project Manager yes as a foot in the door if you don't want to start on the bottom rung degrees can be useful however they are definitely the be all and end all.

If you're willing to put the work in then you will reap the rewards regardless of qualifications

I can't complain with how things ended up and have often thought if i had the chance again i wouldn't have gone to uni as it pretty much just wasted a year and a half. Best advice i can give is enjoy yourself as to my mind uni is as much about the experience as it is about a piece of paper at the end of it. Say yes to things you wouldn't normally Orgies, social clubs etc and you'll build a decent group of mates around you, those are the relationships that tend to last.
 
pitchfork said:
Also, it really doesn't matter if you think I'm cocky. Maybe I am a bit, I don't deny I still have a lot to learn, which is one of the things I look for in anywhere I consider as a graduate employer. But I maintain I am better than most people that come out of university and walk into a job not knowing what the **** they are doing.
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Hahahah. Oh lawd. You sound like a lot of people who I knew who studied 'business and finance'/'management'. Believe me, for a half decent graduate scheme you're going to have trouble explaining that one away unless you're at a top/red brick university or have outstanding extra-curriculars/directly relevant previous employment history.

It's a tough world out there at the moment and that attitude isn't going to get you anywhere.

@OP: Just enjoy it whilst it lasts, make friends, be sociable etc. etc. You quickly sift through your friends and establish who's worth knowing.
 
I love how some people think an ex-poly means its a crap uni :p

I just got into my MSc at Newcastle Uni after graduating from Northumbria (an ex-poly) with a first. It took less than 24 hours from me sending them my transcript to being accepted into the course. So yeah, university name means nothing IMO, your modules and marks mean more in the real world
 
quickshot89 said:
I love how some people think an ex-poly means its a crap uni :p

I just got into my MSc at Newcastle Uni after graduating from Northumbria (an ex-poly) with a first. It took less than 24 hours from me sending them my transcript to being accepted into the course. So yeah, university name means nothing IMO, your modules and marks mean more in the real world
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Not really. It's not as big a deal as people like to make out, but it is still important. It's probably also worth pointing out that you're comparing going out into the "world of work" with doing a postgrad, getting a first from most Universities in the UK would put you in good stead for a postgrad - the same isn't really true when it comes to jobs.
 
quickshot89 said:
I love how some people think an ex-poly means its a crap uni :p

I just got into my MSc at Newcastle Uni after graduating from Northumbria (an ex-poly) with a first. It took less than 24 hours from me sending them my transcript to being accepted into the course. So yeah, university name means nothing IMO, your modules and marks mean more in the real world
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Postgraduate admissions are nowhere near as tough as undergrad - if you have the money and a 2:1 from somewhere, they'll let you on (whether they'll mark you highly is quite another matter). Also I would hardly consider Newcastle as the ultimate step-up from Poly to top-tier. Isn't it widely considered one of the lowest ranked 'traditional' unis?

Anyway that wasn't the point. The point is that ex-Poly business students thinking they are the best thing since sliced bread is hilarious. 100,000's of people graduate every year from much harder subjects, at much more elite institutions, with many more life achievements and far greater ambitions. You sound like an idiot when you go to one of those unis and have the temerity to talk about people doing "joke" degrees. The academic world regards the business studies student as the real butt of all jokes.
 
InKursion said:
Also I would hardly consider Newcastle as the ultimate step-up from Poly to top-tier. Isn't it widely considered one of the lowest ranked 'traditional' unis?
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Depends on the field wouldnt you say? eg: Medicine, its in the top 10

The only reason i chose Newcastle was 1) its another local uni for me, 2) i have a part time job supporting myself 3) the only other course i wanted to do post grad was in reading which is too expensive for me to move to currently, as post grad UK students get bugger all in terms of scholarships :confused:

edit: To go back to the point at hand, yes I agree, some degrees are a joke and shouldnt be considered brag worthy
 
Scholarships do exist, just they are very rare and for the Pitchfork's of this world.

Are you doing Medicine? An MSc in Medicine sounds strange. Otherwise that department's niche strength seems pretty irrelevant. Your degree isn't considered better to employers by (non-)relation :p
 
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