Missing girl 15, runs off with Maths teacher.

I'm not sure on the law, but seeing as she is a minor would he not technically need her parents/guardians permission to take her anywhere, without which it effectively becomes kidnap?

Not sure, but either way it is professional suicide. I have read about these kind of things where older men get involved with school girls and they end up married with kids and I suppose its easy to be judgemental.

I do believe that at 15 a teenager probably thinks they are mature enough, but looking back to when I was 15 I have to say no way! I was actually quite a mature 15 year old too, as far as teenagers go!

I think as a person in a position of trust he should have been stronger and made the right decision for her - which is what he would have done if he actually cared about her on a personal level.

He may be depressed, very lonely and weak willed, and perhaps she gave him a ray of light that he grasped and it severely clouded his judgement. Maybe he just wants to use her for sex? Maybe he is a ephebophile and she is a gerontophile and it is some kind of twisted 'natural' coming together?

I suppose the truth will come out in the wash sooner or later :)

Whichever way you cut it though, its not good.

I hope she is ok, her family must be distraught.

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Ahleckz said:
Well the child has clearly had some part in this, hasn't she. Every time I've been on the ferry to France, they've checked passports of everyone in the car so it stands to reason that she went and got her passport and was a willing participant.

I think that it's wrong of them to do it, but I wouldn't want to suggest that this teacher is to blame totally.
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I keep my personal opinions of people to myself and like I said in my OP I have worked in this school with these teachers.

I am sure the relationship is 50/50, in fact I have no doubt about that. The trouble I have with it is they couldn't wait the maximum of 12 months so this wouldn't be an issue.

You have to ask yourself, what has happened to make a 30 year old man through away his life, career and possibly face criminal charges for the sake of a few months?

I know he was married not all that low ago and it has been alleged by neighbors and people close to him that he has had many private and public outbursts and rants that have been noticed by others.

I would worry that it is a possibility that he is not entirely of sound mind at the moment.
 
Richie said:
That would not be Abduction, that would be an offence under the Sexual Offences Act 2003.

The first crime of abduction can be proven, the one you are posing cannot be proved yet, if at all.
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True, it's not like they will admit anything like that, they maybe daft, but not that daft.

How can this guy mess up his career like that, it's just totally crazy. He'll never be able to teach again.

Hell if that was my daughter I would be full of rage right now, I blame them both and the sad thing is she will just be treated totally innocent in the matter.
 
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lemonkettaz said:
What do you mean?

Anyone can mislead someone into a sexual relationship.
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If she was 16 tomorrow he would be OK in regards to the Abduction charges but they would probably be questioned in regards to the relationship as, if it was sexual in any way, he could be charged under Sexual Offences Act 2003 due to her age being under 18 and him being in a sposition of trust as her teacher - http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/42/part/1/crossheading/abuse-of-position-of-trust

I am not saying he WOULD be charged but he certainly wouldn't be "living his life the next week"
 
Third Opinion said:
Sorry I don't understand.

If you sent your daughter to school, would you not be unhappy that one of the people put in charge of her who was twice her age (she is still a child) ran away with her to France without your knowledge or consent?
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I'd be unhappy at my poor relationship with my kid more than anything...
 
Richie said:
If she was 16 tomorrow he would be OK in regards to the Abduction charges but they would probably be questioned in regards to the relationship as, if it was sexual in any way, he could be charged under Sexual Offences Act 2003 due to her age being under 18 and him being in a sposition of trust as her teacher - http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/42/part/1/crossheading/abuse-of-position-of-trust

I am not saying he WOULD be charged but he certainly wouldn't be "living his life the next week"
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Is that irrespective of her side of the situation?
 
Richie said:
If she was 16 tomorrow he would be OK in regards to the Abduction charges but they would probably be questioned in regards to the relationship as, if it was sexual in any way, he could be charged under Sexual Offences Act 2003 due to her age being under 18 and him being in a sposition of trust as her teacher - http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/42/part/1/crossheading/abuse-of-position-of-trust

I am not saying he WOULD be charged but he certainly wouldn't be "living his life the next week"
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I think it likely. Even if he was not in a position of trust, because he is so much older than she is I think they would prosecute him.

From the CPS website:

In summary, a man who is considerably older that the girl is likely to be prosecuted, especially if he owed her a duty of care
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Cheers

Buff
 
BuffetSlayer said:
I think it likely. Even if he was not in a position of trust, because he is so much older than she is I think they would prosecute him.

From the CPS website:



Cheers

Buff
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Sorry, can you link to that page with the CPS quote as I am having a hard trouble believing it without the full context. Currently it reads that a 50 year old man would be prosecuted for a relationship with a 16 year old girl irrespective of positions of trust.
 
I suppose he thought she was a prime candidate. I wonder if he asked her to divide her legs so they could multiply?
 
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Also, the age of consent is 16, which she is not, so if their relationship has been sexual then I believe this would apply:

A charge of unlawful sexual intercourse will normally be appropriate if a girl consents in fact to intercourse but she is under the statutory ages in sections 5 and 6 of the Sexual Offences Act 1956.
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At age 16 a girl can lawfully have sex, but also any sexual act with a girl below the age of 13 is deemed statutory rape, which has no defence - and I believe the maximum sentence is life. (someone correct me if I am wrong....)

Buff
 
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