Missing girl 15, runs off with Maths teacher.

Nelly said:
Set a precedent, otherwise their would be no deterrent at all, anyway shes under age, he's a total idiot, deserves all he gets, probally get smashed up in prison.
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What precedent does it set? This thing doesn't happen regularly, because of the laws and deterrents in place. It seems that he hasn't abducted her and she's gone by her own free will. Yes, she's young but ultimately why should she be imprisoned because of this? She hasn't broken the law.

He's done a daft thing, professionally but he clearly believes (as his blog suggested) that he's doing what he thinks is best. In what way is he an idiot?

What does he deserve?

Care to explain your points, like an adult?
 
Ahleckz said:
He's done a daft thing, professionally but he clearly believes (as his blog suggested) that he's doing what he thinks is best. In what way is he an idiot?
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He's an idiot for thinking he will get away with it for a start. What difference does it make, he will get locked up, so that will be that! :)
Ahleckz said:
Care to explain your points, like an adult?
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I'm not going to argue with a someone who makes leary comments like that anyway.
 
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This is one of those cases where the media coverage is only going to be a bad thing

If she was 1 year older it ttechnically wouldn't be anywhere near so publicised

He's probably a bit weird, when you pressure people like that it may push him to do somethingjhennormally wouldn't
 
Nelly said:
Why should he be let off?
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Let off for what? What criminal act has he committed, and if he has then why would it be in the public interest to imprison him?

The CPS/Crown Office only seek prosecution if it's in the public interest. Why do you believe that the teacher ought to be prosecuted, and for what?

I've stated that I think what he has done is inappropriate and both parties ought to answer questions to their superiors and parents. However I don't believe that criminal charges should be levelled at either of them based on what we know now. There is no reason to.
 
Ahleckz said:
Let off for what? What criminal act has he committed, and if he has then why would it be in the public interest to imprison him?

The CPS/Crown Office only seek prosecution if it's in the public interest. Why do you believe that the teacher ought to be prosecuted, and for what?

I've stated that I think what he has done is inappropriate and both parties ought to answer questions to their superiors and parents. However I don't believe that criminal charges should be levelled at either of them based on what we know now. There is no reason to.
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Well I'm no lawyer, but abusing his care of trust as a teacher, maybe I'm being harsh, but it doesn't dwell very well, maybe their is more to this than their is, maybe their isn't. The law is too soft in this country as it is, well that's my opinion.
 
Nelly said:
Well I'm no lawyer, but abusing his care of trust as a teacher, maybe I'm being harsh, but it doesn't dwell very well, maybe their is more to this than their is, maybe their isn't. The law is too soft in this country as it is, well that's my opinion.
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I can tell.

How has he abused his position of trust? What possible evidence do you have which even suggests that?

Again, what law which is too soft has been broken?

I ask AGAIN, why would it be in the public interest to imprison either parties?
 
We shall see, depends what's gone on:

PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT

All teachers are considered to be in a position of trust with regard to their pupils

Under the Sexual Offences Act 2003, the abuse of a position of trust is a criminal offence

The age of consent for sexual intercourse is ordinarily 16, but this does not apply under this Act
Instead, a person over the age of 18, who is in a position of trust over a person under 18, commits a criminal offence if they involve the younger person in sexual activity

When using social media like Facebook, teachers are advised not to blur the boundaries between the professional and the personal, for example, they should not give their pupils friend status
 
If he loves her and she loves him then i don't see why he should be put onto the sex act, not all 15 year olds are under.

However I do feel that both of them should be punished yes even her, but prison no. Perhaps banning him from working in schools?
 
Ahleckz said:
How has he abused his position of trust? What possible evidence do you have which even suggests that?
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Well I'm not sure she got a note from her parents/legal guardians authorising this little trip with her teacher and it doesn't appear to be educational - at least not in the national curriculum sense.
 
Assuming he didn't pressure her in any way into having a relationship with him, I can't see the need to punish either of them.

But of course we live in a time when most people will be baying for his blood. "Lock up the pedo!" will be the massed chants of the Sun/ Mirror/ Daily Mail readers.
 
well he's not a paedo per say, she could pass for someone a few years older and without already knowing their respective ages they wouldn't look massively out of place as a couple:

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he's still abused his position of trust, caused distress to her parents... while she is capable of making her own decisions and there isn't much doubt that she's gone with him quite willingly he is still supposedly the responsible adult here and should have exercised better judgement.
 
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Ahleckz said:
Let off for what? What criminal act has he committed, and if he has then why would it be in the public interest to imprison him?

The CPS/Crown Office only seek prosecution if it's in the public interest. Why do you believe that the teacher ought to be prosecuted, and for what?

I've stated that I think what he has done is inappropriate and both parties ought to answer questions to their superiors and parents. However I don't believe that criminal charges should be levelled at either of them based on what we know now. There is no reason to.
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Prosecution is not automatic, but the CPS prosecutors code says:

A prosecution will usually take place unless the prosecutor is sure that there are public interest factors tending against prosecution which outweigh those tending in favour, or unless the prosecutor is satisfied that the public interest may be properly served, in the first instance, by offering the offender the opportunity to have the matter dealt with by an out-of-court disposal (see section 7). The more serious the offence or the offender's record of criminal behaviour, the more likely it is that a prosecution will be required in the public interest.
 
I certainly fear for her, it's bad enough having someone try to take advantage of a child in this way, but to flee England with a teenage without regards for consequences clearly demonstrates an unstable state of mind. Goes far beyond the usual teacher and student fling we hear about all too often.
 
smelly_legend said:
This is definitely a man of the lowest common denominator.
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Really? I can think of much worse people. He's ran off with an underage girl, which is obviously illegal, but imo, assuming it's all consensual and they really 'love' each other I can't see any massive moral problems. The laws are however there for a reason, there needs to be a cut-off somewhere and (assuming he's boning her) he'll go through the justice system, but hopefully be given a light sentence as on the scale of badness in this regard, he's pretty near the bottom.

Of course with all the media coverage and pressure, he'll probably get about 5 years and have to sign onto the register, effectively ruining his life. If he wasn't a massive idiot, he would have quit his job and waited until she was 16.
 
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