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i5 3570k or new amd trinity

longjohn

longjohn

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now the big question is do i get the intel i5 3570k or should i wait for the new amd trinity?


looking to but at the end of the week
 
What is the main use of the PC you are going to build??

They are in different price bands so are not really comparable TBH. The Trinity A10-5800K will probably be around £90 to £100 and a Core i5 3570K is around £170 to £180.

The reviews are out this week for the Trinity A10-5800K,so we will soon get to know how well it performs at stock and when overclocked.

If you need a decent IGP and/or a CPU which after some overclocking should be reasonable,the A10-5800K looks a good alterntive in its price band.

However,the Core i5 3570K has a worse IGP but is simply a faster CPU,which is better suited for a high end gaming system.
 
main use is gaming, i dont really understand all these technical jargon so just want to know wot the best for me will be
 
3570K + dedicated GPU will be much faster system, but if your gaming at less than 1080P a Trinity build would be sufficient and a LOT cheaper... So each has perks.. Supposedly the FM2 motherboard will support the next lot of APU's aswell, so there is an upgrade path there aswell..
 
I am interested in this too.

I am looking to buy both a new CPU and motherboard to replace my unlocked X2 550BE.

If the 5800K can deliver close to 2500K performance in games at 1080p with a discrete video card then I will be going with that. It looks like the 5800K + motherboard could be £100 cheaper than 2500K + motherboard.
 
well i have a phenom 1100t black so im looking for better than that also have a gigabyte gtx 670 and only play single monitor 1080p but may look to go bigger
 
You'll be wanting an i5 3570k then Longjohn.

To lovelyhead, ultimately the CPU side of the A10 5800k is only going to be around a high clocking Phenom II x4.
 
Martini1991 said:
You'll be wanting an i5 3570k then Longjohn.

To lovelyhead, ultimately the CPU side of the A10 5800k is only going to be around a high clocking Phenom II x4.
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I read that AMD are claiming that it will provide i5 like performance for i3 prices. If that is true then it will be better than a high clocked PII x4.
 
Martini1991 said:
It won't be true, not CPU side, not by a long shot.
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Why? (Genuine question)

I have only just started reading about it in the last couple of days. I am looking for a CPU that can keep up with perhaps a GTX 670 at 1080p. If the 5800K can do that at around £100 cheaper than the the cheapest decent i5 then it will be good enough for me.
 
Martini1991 said:
It won't be true, not CPU side, not by a long shot.
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Indeed. It will depend on the benchmark used. There are no doubt some tasks where that will be true to validate the statement, but marketing is always selective to promote its positives.
 
It won't be 100 pound cheaper than the cheapest i5 (Entry level FM2 board will probably cost more than an entry level H61 board for the i5 too, albeit be a much better board)
The cheapest i5 is around 140 quid in the Ivybridge i5 3330.

What they'll probably mean is the A10 5800K can overclock to match/be slightly less than/slightly better than stock i5 3570/2500 performance at the same price point as an i3.

Trinity uses Piledriver cores, which is the successor from Zambezi/Bulldozer, but those cores are much lower performance than AMD's Phenom II cores, they'd have to get an astronomical performance increase to be i5 performance consistently at stock, it's just not happening.

With a GTX670 there is no other option than using an i5.
 
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Martini1991 said:
What they'll probably mean is the A10 5800K can overclock to match/be slightly less than/slightly better than stock i5 3570/2500 performance at the same price point as an i3.
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That sounds good to me. Can a stock 2500 run most games at 1080p 60FPS when paired with a good GPU?
 
lovelyhead said:
That sounds good to me. Can a stock 2500 run most games at 1080p 60FPS when paired with a good GPU?
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Yes.
Likely the difference between an i5 3330 rig against a Trinity A10 5800K will be about 40 quid or less (Although you lose overclocking on the i5, albeit you'd probably lose little to switch it out to an i7/i5 when you need the extra grunt, which you'd get from overclocking)

Also, while it is "Good" means you'd have to upgrade much earlier than using a 2500k/3570k as they have another 40% left in the tank when OC'ed.
 
Martini1991 said:
Yes.
Likely the difference between an i5 3330 rig against a Trinity A10 5800K will be about 40 quid or less.

Also, while it is "Good" means you'd have to overclock much earlier than using a 2500k/3570k as they have another 40% left in the tank when OC'ed.
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So if you only game at 1080p why would you choose the i5 over the AMD?
 
lovelyhead said:
So if you only game at 1080p why would you choose the i5 over the AMD?
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Because I don't want to bottleneck my 7970 with an awful FX CPU and my 3D performance would be abysmal?
Also you'd have like 40% headroom left in the tank in the i5.
So when the AMD user has to blow another load on upgrading their CPU and Motherboard likely, I can continue to use my i5.

Take the i7's launched back in 2008, they're lasting fine (They also OC'ed a massive amount), but the Phenom II's launched in 2009?(They struggled to get 4GHZ stable consistently for a long time, took a silicon revision and it still wasn't consistent) Bottlenecking GPU's left right and centre.

AMD's "value" argument is fallible these days.
 
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