Good argument, very convincing
There is no reason to make a drink potentially lethal, just to make the experience more fun. Especially when the people who are to consume it are off their faces, and unable to anticipate the danger.
Liquid nitrogen in a drink?
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Good argument, very convincing
There is no reason to make a drink potentially lethal, just to make the experience more fun. Especially when the people who are to consume it are off their faces, and unable to anticipate the danger.
Its not a case of liking anything!
Its my opinion based on personal experience working with LN during my masters degree!
Anyway i bow to your greater experience in cryogenics!
you're welcome
i remember a case of a school teacher who decided to sip a little to show its not dangerous - cue collapsed lung due to the internal pressure.
I'd say quite the opposite, completely irresponsible girl! She should never had ordered the drink if she wasn't in a state to handle it safely.
Sure, there's the possibility that the drink was made incorrectly, in which case by all means blame the bar, but you cannot possibly say the girl is not at least equally responsible for her fate.
well, you can, because its the bar's responsibility to not serve something that could be dangerous in any way, just like they shouldn't sell drinks if you are too drunk.
The HSE will tear the owners of the bar to pieces.
Good argument, very convincing
There is no reason to make a drink potentially lethal, just to make the experience more fun. Especially when the people who are to consume it are off their faces, and unable to anticipate the danger.
I agree lets ban it as it is such a common occurrence it has happened at least every other day, oh wait.
Do we then ban dry ice? Where is the cut off on the cold scale? Anything colder than an ice cube.
Lots of things are made slightly more dangerous as they are fun, it is part of the fun.
Sadly, I'm sure they will. However the drink is legal to sell, and is sold all over th world, so it's not inherently dangerous if treated properly.
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I'm amazed you can lead a 'normal life' with no stomach, seems like a pretty major organ in your body. 
but is it?
there is a real grey area here. just because its being served doesn't mean its legal.
if a full COSHH safety assessment was carried out you would find out that liq nitrogen should NEVER be ingested.
by serving a drink that could contain liquid nitrogen several safety and consumer laws are being broken. I expect the HSE will make people aware of that from now on.
The owner will likely lose his business because of this and may even face a ail sentence - when other bars realise what they have been serving then only an idiot would continue to sell it.
Why would anyone ever suggest you ingest the nitrogen? That's just absurd. It's a nice effect to have in a drink, but anybody with even the slightest bit of common sense (and being drunk is NEVER an excuse not to use it) would not drink it with the nitrogen still in it, hence why incidents like these aren't happening every day.
ermm, you serve someone a drink, its pretty much implied that it is safe to drink - you can't expect the general public to have a working knowledge of physics/chemistry to judge when they should start drinking!!
It'll all blow over in a few days. There will be no ban.
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I had one of those 'Smokers' as it was where I went (Manchester) and it was VERY cold, the bloke said to sip and let it warm up a bit. VERY tasty and unique.
Now, I guess about 1 Million would have had this type of drink, maybe more, maybe less, 1 person has the reaction. There are calls for this to be banned now, why? Just because some-one got injured? Where would we stop, someone falls of a set of ladders and dies, ban ladders? Ban cars because people die? It's a stupid culture/society we now live in where NO-ONE accepts that they may have done wrong them selves.
But anyway, sad thing to happen, I guess that they were not 'mature' enough to enjoy a cocktail...you sit and sip...
Now, I guess about 1 Million would have had this type of drink, maybe more, maybe less, 1 person has the reaction. There are calls for this to be banned now, why? Just because some-one got injured? Where would we stop, someone falls of a set of ladders and dies, ban ladders? Ban cars because people die? It's a stupid culture/society we now live in where NO-ONE accepts that they may have done wrong them selves.
But anyway, sad thing to happen, I guess that they were not 'mature' enough to enjoy a cocktail...you sit and sip...
What a load of nonsense. Does the drink come with instructions? Only safe if you don't drink it too quickly or not if you drink so much in a period of time?
I honestly can't believe people are saying this is the girls lookout.
As a 38 year old, with over 20 years of legal drinking in bars, I still sometimes sometimes go overboard with drinks. As an 18 year old, you've got no idea what's going on really. It's all to come.
It should be safe to assume that drinks you buy from a bar are safe to drink. It's not up to a customer to know why their drink is smoking. It's up to the bar to serve a drink that's safe to drink, smoking or not.
If they must have an LN cocktail on the menu, it's the bars responsibility to not serve her so much that her stomach explodes.
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I expect there is somebody out there who managed to choke to death on a cocktail umbrella. Should they be removed from all drinks because they're a choking hazard?
You ban certain things, or combinations of things, if there is a chance of real harm being done. Clearly, since real harm has been done in this case, there is case to ban LN from being put into beverages.
We're not talking about banning LN. Just stopping it from being served in drinks.
Is that miniscule loss of freedom really worth the risk of this happening again? A girl has lost her stomach, for Pete's sake.
How many people sit and sip cocktails on their 18th?
Agree though regarding responsibility, but we need to put some onus on the bars to enforce responsible drinking. That said, is it legal to serve 8 shots of vodka (for example) in a glass? That would have some pretty savage affects if downed ...
Really? Are you sure there's no kind of impact of the scale of the problem in there? How many people have drunk this without having to have their stomach removed?
You hardly ever see cocktail umbrellas anymore, and it's a damned travesty. BRING THEM BACK!