2 pairs of tyres - which on front, which on back?

Tesla said:
That's a 101 on prevention...

EDIT - I'm not trolling, I've always thought oversteer can be corrected and understeer not? Prepared to be corrected though.
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Both can be corrected, however, when you go past the point of no saving, understeer is a lot less wild.
 
Hmm, about to replace the front pair on the missus' fiesta with continental premium contact 5. So the mismatched pair with at least one ditchfinder should go in the front then?
 
Uriel said:
Hmm, about to replace the front pair on the missus' fiesta with continental premium contact 5. So the mismatched pair with at least one ditchfinder should go in the front then?
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I'd say so. Out of interest what are the 2 odd tyres?
 
Janesy B said:
While the front wheels do braking and steering, the tyres at the back stop you from swapping ends at the nearest possible chance. I'd sooner have a bit of under-steer than suffering from lift off oversteer in the wet.
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what a fanny :p
 
As fun as the oversteer is, it can be a bit brown trousers at times. I had it a few days ago on a busy wet roundabout in rush hour last week.
 
more tread/ more grip/ better tyres on the front.
That is what steers the car
That is what stops the car
That is what accelerates the car.

Never mind what the back end is doing, if it oversteers you were going too fast anyway.
Don't drive like a knob.
 
Thanks for the advice all, I'll probably stick them on the back to avoid brown trouser oversteer moments. The ZZ3s have seemed fine with the driving I've done so far, so I'll use them until they're worn a bit then get more UHP tyres and rotate the CSC5s onto the front.

Tyres are getting delivered tomorrow so I've got to work out if I'm going to get the scuffs on my wheels refurbished at The Wheel Specialist and get the tyres fitted at the same time, or not bother and just get the tyres put on!
 
Fuzz said:
more tread/ more grip/ better tyres on the front.
That is what steers the car
That is what stops the car
That is what accelerates the car.

Never mind what the back end is doing, if it oversteers you were going too fast anyway.
Don't drive like a knob.
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Last time I checked, the rear of a car has brakes too.
 
Worries me a bit how people can have FWD shopping cars getting into brown trouser oversteer moments on busy roundabouts? I think some modification needs to be done to the driving, not the car.

My car loves nothing more than to do silly skids but you know what, that never accidently happened on a busy road.
 
Clarkey said:
Worries me a bit how people can have FWD shopping cars getting into brown trouser oversteer moments on busy roundabouts? I think some modification needs to be done to the driving, not the car.

My car loves nothing more than to do silly skids but you know what, that never accidently happened on a busy road.
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It's easily done, especially when the car reacts in a way that you don't necessarily expect.

Fuzz said:
Ever noticed how you stop using the handbrake...

Rear wheel braking gives you a little bit of stability and sweet f all in retardation compared to the front end
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As I said earlier, sooner a bit of understeer than oversteer or aquaplaning at the rear. Most evidence supports this view, despite your opinion.
 
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Janesy B said:
Whilst I handled the situation and had a bit of a giggle, my mother wasn't so impressed. I won't pretend that I am some kind of Togue drifting king unlike a few people here...
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It was only a little joke!

You don't need to be dai yoshihara to correct a little oversteer though.
 
I have never accidentally oversteer'd in a FWD car. You have to be driving like a *** or not taking account of the conditions for that to happen.

Best tyres on the front. That is where you will notice the benefit in grip and braking performance on a FWD.

If you are driving like enough of a Nob to dangerously oversteer on public roads then having slightly better tyres on the back won't help much.
 
Clarkey said:
Worries me a bit how people can have FWD shopping cars getting into brown trouser oversteer moments on busy roundabouts? I think some modification needs to be done to the driving, not the car.
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It's women in 318 autos that worry me ;)
 
Janesy B said:
It's easily done, especially when the car reacts in a way that you don't necessarily expect.



As I said earlier, sooner a bit of understeer than oversteer or aquaplaning at the rear. Most evidence supports this view, despite your opinion.
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Most people haven't got a clue what to do with that disc in front of them that makes the car go in different directions, that is why the advise is what it is.

For a forum member in motors who "hoons about" and who wants to get the best performance out of his vehicle then I stand by the fact you should have the most capable tyres on the the front.

If the front end aquaplanes,
You brake, you make it worse
You steer, you make it worse
You accelerate, you make it worse

All you can do in that situation is hope and pray.

With decent tyres on the front you can make avoidance manoeuvres better, brake harder and have at least some input of your final trajectory should you be dumb enough to get the tail out on a FWD car on the public road.
 
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I don't think I would even know how to induce oversteer in a FWD car...! I have no problem in keeping my >250bhp RWD car straight so am a little concerned that folk in Focuses et al are having the back end step out on roundabouts :p
 
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