Child forced to drink own urine

Call the Police now...this is child abuse and any adult that treats a 6 year old like this should not be entrusted with their care....and any chance, however small that this escalates to something far more dangerous to the child should be avoided at all costs.

And on a separate note, Children do not need to be smacked, you do not need to reinforce bad behaviour with violence, you can simply remove the child from the danger and children, even very young children understand tone, volume and body language to an extent that the actual physical contact of a smack is not required.
 
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Colbaker said:
Yep, you do not have children so cannot comment. Of course if you did have children you will wrap them I'm Cotten wool and keep them in a padded room where there is not gas cooker, electrical points, electrical equipment, anything to climb up, etc.
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You don't have children so you can't comment.

Vs.

Oh, you do have children? You're a bad parent.

Sigh.
 
i don't have kids but am very protective of my family and partner. if that was my kid being bullied in this way then the guy would be almost dead by now. Thankfully it's not me so i suggest the op call social services and the police immediately and do not let the child return to them until this is resolved.
 
I await a reply from OP...

If you don't phone the police or take any other action, I will be extremely annoyed. And I will write a post to you explaining how annoyed I am.

Ahlechz you don't understand, no. Until you have a child... until you have a child, you do not understand.
 
right update,

firstly, like I said in the OP, I'm venting and knew some of you would respond as you have but I believe my approach will stop the abuse.

another independent professional witness to my son saying what has happened before his custodial parent gets hold of him to sway his thoughts, remember this is the uncle so access to the mother wouldn't be withheld by the police, social services will be referred to by both me and the school, that is a real force and not just a parent without care banding about acquisitions.

I text the mother the following (she wouldn't answer the phone and text is written proof but allows her to build a story):

"Did you know **** made **** drink his own urine!, I'm going to the police first thing tomorrow as its disgusting and ****ing abuse on a massive scale!"

her reply:

It was ****ing orange juice and ginger beer mixed together! like I would let him do that. it was to scare him to stop weeing the bed!!

and that makes mental abuse of a child believe he is drinking wee ok?! idiot!
 
Colbaker said:
Yep, you do not have children so cannot comment. Of course if you did have children you will wrap them I'm Cotten wool and keep them in a padded room where there is not gas cooker, electrical points, electrical equipment, anything to climb up, etc.
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I do have children and I disagree with you, smacking is simply not required to scare a child away from a dangerous situation. And a few simple precautions regarding cookers, electrical sockets and so on would mean that the child is not in danger of serious harm anyway....a few bumps and scrapes are good for their development, but allowing children to be in a situation where they can serious injure or even kill themselves such as being unattended in a kitchen with cooking going on, or having open electrical sockets that are easy for a child to stick their fingers into, and similar easily avoided situations is simply a lack of foresight and care on the part of the Parent/Guardian...physically punishing a child for my carelessness seems a rather bad example to teach my child, let alone the message that using violence gives in the first place.
 
Right, let's say this again: the teacher being told means nothing. It really doesn't.
My wife works with children in vulnerable situations, as part of the social service/health visitor setup.
She said: call the police or your social services 24hr desk, telling the teacher is pointless.

You might think you know best, but she is not the only one here with knowledge in this area saying the same thing.

Also "uncle" are you calling he partner his uncle or is he her brother or what?
If you really believe your child then do something about it.
 
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Richand said:
It was ****ing orange juice and ginger beer mixed together! like I would let him do that. it was to scare him to stop weeing the bed!!

and that makes mental abuse of a child believe he is drinking wee ok?! idiot!
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I once did a challenge on my Unions stage when at university where I had to sip a bit of the DJ's (Phil) urine. It was actually lime juice and water. I downed the pint. THE PLACE WENT MENTAL.

Anyway, scaring/punishing people for wetting the bet is ridiculous. It's a natural thing, and often you can't control it. I was once in bed. With a girl. I ****ed the bed whilst sleeping. Never, have I ever, got myself and her out of bed so quickly. Jesus, that was awkward.
 
Richand said:
right update,

firstly, like I said in the OP, I'm venting and knew some of you would respond as you have but I believe my approach will stop the abuse.

another independent professional witness to my son saying what has happened before his custodial parent gets hold of him to sway his thoughts, remember this is the uncle so access to the mother wouldn't be withheld by the police, social services will be referred to by both me and the school, that is a real force and not just a parent without care banding about acquisitions.

I text the mother the following (she wouldn't answer the phone and text is written proof but allows her to build a story):

"Did you know **** made **** drink his own urine!, I'm going to the police first thing tomorrow as its disgusting and ****ing abuse on a massive scale!"

her reply:

It was ****ing orange juice and ginger beer mixed together! like I would let him do that. it was to scare him to stop weeing the bed!!

and that makes mental abuse of a child believe he is drinking wee ok?! idiot!
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You text the Mother telling her your intentions?
 
Morba said:
Right, let's say this again: the teacher being told means nothing. It really doesn't.
My wife works with children in vulnerable situations, as part of the social service/health visitor setup.
She said: call the police or your social services 24hr desk, telling the teacher is pointless.

You might think you know best, but she is not the only one here with knowledge in this area saying the same thing.
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Aye, and I would add that the OP shouldn't take the mothers word on what happened, if in doubt let the Police and Social Services sort it out, if they are satisfied that there is not risk and the incident was harmless then so be it...but when in doubt err on the side of caution...every time.
 
I am extremely annoyed Richand.

My question is... in the meantime whilst you're pussy footing, is your child going to be going back there? Or is he not staying there in the next few days.
 
I agree, a teacher has very little sway, but if went to court could be called as a witness to recount the version of events that have been told, get your social services and the police on board ASAP.
 
Castiel said:
I do have children and I disagree with you, smacking is simply not required to scare a child away from a dangerous situation. And a few simple precautions regarding cookers, electrical sockets and so on would mean that the child is not in danger of serious harm anyway....a few bumps and scrapes are good for their development, but allowing children to be in a situation where they can serious injure or even kill themselves such as being unattended in a kitchen with cooking going on, or having open electrical sockets that are easy for a child to stick their fingers into, and similar easily avoided situations is simply a lack of foresight and care on the part of the Parent/Guardian...physically punishing a child for my carelessness seems a rather bad example to teach my child, let alone the message that using violence gives in the first place.
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I disagree as I would because I am pro smacking, you disagree with me as you would because you are con smacking, this will go round and round in circles, ultimately neither of us should tell the other how to raise our children but obviously have the right to agree or disagree with each other.

My now 6 year old is very grounded, well behaved and is often commented on as a nice polite boy ( his teacher said he is the politest boy she has ever met), I doubt he even remembers me smacking him but at the time took his attention away from what he was doing, as said it was not to hurt or even mark him but he understood that what he was doing was very naughty ( I had tried other routes first).

As said we will never agree
 
EdGey said:
in the meantime whilst you're pussy footing, is your child going to be going back there? Or is he not staying there in the next few days.
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how many times to people need to be told that OP has no say in where his kid stays because as a father his rights get instantly taken away by any mother that wants to take them


OP see the school (who will have a social services contact) they can probably back your thoughts of abuse up too for example theyve noticed a change in your kids behaviour
 
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