Gary McKinnon day of judgement

Tute · 16 Oct 2012 at 13:52

Awful decision, but about par for the course for the UK.

Mr-White · 16 Oct 2012 at 13:58

Linkex said:
Good. Assuming that the Americans claims regarding the damage he did are true, which I doubt very much, he took deleted some logs, which somehow took down a system of 300 computers(?) which they say paralyzed munitions deliveries to their entire Atlantic fleet. If thats true, and the cost to repair they have claimed are true, $700,000 is a VERY small price to pay to find out that someone in their bedroom in another country can shutdown your navy.

He did it on dial up as well and the reason he got in was because they never changed any of the default passwords.

MW

Von Smallhausen · 16 Oct 2012 at 14:01

Exellent to hear. Britain's extradition agreement with the United States is one sided and stacked in favour of US interests.

Intratech · 16 Oct 2012 at 14:03

Von Smallhausen said:
Exellent to hear. Britain's extraction agreement with the UK is one sided and stacked in favour of US interests.

I'd love to be extradited from Britain to the UK. Sounds like fun.

Uther · 16 Oct 2012 at 14:07

Great decision, I was expecting it to go the other way TBH.

Xordium · 16 Oct 2012 at 14:18

Dolph said:
let's see if May is strong enough to avoid it.

Let's see if May is sensible enough to use the evidence she requested.

And there was me thinking you were a champion of evidence based policy and law. I guess it's only when it suits you.

stockhausen · 16 Oct 2012 at 14:35

There was some retired adviser to past American Presidents on the BBC Radio 4 "PM" program today who suggested that America had one of the fairest legal systems and most humane prison systems in the world.

Abraham Lincoln said:
You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.

Bob Dylan said:
I'll let you be in my dream if I can be in yours.

I'm glad to hear that McKinnon is not to be extradited to that barbaric hell-hole of a country - well done Theresa May!

a1ex2001 · 16 Oct 2012 at 15:23

Can't believe he's been allowed to use a bunch of lies and emotional clap trap to avoid extradition, hope we try him in this country and lock him up for years.

Tute · 16 Oct 2012 at 15:27

What actually does happen now then? Do the US have rights to appeal it 48,212 times like McKinnon, or is that the end of the extradition chances?

Are we going to try him here or will he be allowed to walk away scot free?

Castiel · 16 Oct 2012 at 15:28

Tute said:
What actually does happen now then? Do the US have rights to appeal it 48,212 times like McKinnon, or is that the end of the extradition chances?

Are we going to try him here or will he be allowed to walk away scot free?

The Yanks have a contingency for situations like this.....it is called rendition...

Intratech · 16 Oct 2012 at 15:30

Castiel said:
The Yanks have a contingency for situations like this.....it is called rendition...

Extraordinary

Tute · 16 Oct 2012 at 15:36

Castiel said:
The Yanks have a contingency for situations like this.....it is called rendition...

And obviously it would be terrible if he turned up on US soil inexplicably.

Cosimo · 16 Oct 2012 at 15:37

Intratech said:
I'd love to be extradited from Britain to the UK. Sounds like fun.

Can't be bad as you get a free flight, free meals/accommodation and probably get a tv appearance so it's pretty good. Such a shame he didn't get the package.

int · 16 Oct 2012 at 15:37

Odd decision as it seems to be based entirely on the fact that he has Asperger's syndrome. Talha Ahsan who was recently extradited to the US also has Asperger's, surely a bit of a contradiction on Teresa May's part?

Tute · 16 Oct 2012 at 15:39

Ahsan clearly made the mistake of not threatening to kill himself.

a1ex2001 · 16 Oct 2012 at 15:47

Tute said:
Ahsan clearly made the mistake of not threatening to kill himself.

and made the 'mistake' of being an Asian Muslim, not that I'm implying that the british government would be in anyway more inclined to deport an Asian Muslim than they are a middle class white Christian :eek:

Whole decision is a joke and smacks of popularist pandering to the media

Castiel · 16 Oct 2012 at 15:51

Tute said:
And obviously it would be terrible if he turned up on US soil inexplicably.

Not US Soil.....maybe Somalia, or maybe just found in a suitcase in his bathroom.

msmalls74 · 16 Oct 2012 at 15:59

a1ex2001 said:
and made the 'mistake' of being an Asian Muslim, not that I'm implying that the british government would be in anyway more inclined to deport an Asian Muslim than they are a middle class white Christian

Whole decision is a joke and smacks of popularist pandering to the media

Plenty of non muslim UK resisidents have been extradited to the US, the reason was not his aspergers, but the risk to his life through medical evidence, but hey why worry bout the facts. Hopefully he gets charged for his crime though, dont think in anyway he should get away with it, even if it was done in "innocence".

MoNkeE · 16 Oct 2012 at 16:06

a1ex2001 said:
and made the 'mistake' of being an Asian Muslim, not that I'm implying that the british government would be in anyway more inclined to deport an Asian Muslim than they are a middle class white Christian

He's middle class and a Christian? :confused:

Where'd you get those facts from?

Also I think people saying anyone that now threatens to kill themselves will get let off scott free - doesn't this have to be confirmed as genuine by medical professionals?

wildman · 16 Oct 2012 at 16:12

He'll be sharing a cell with Abu Hamza before the week is over !

Gary McKinnon day of judgement

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