Microsoft Surface RT Priced

Greenja said:
Yeah exactly, its a touch screen Ultrabook with removeable keyboard.

I think this is why they are giving a 3 month gap beteen the RT and Pro models of the Surface. Let people get used to the new Surface as a tablet product / iPad competitor and then release the Pro when people are a bit more aware of the product.

I can see how to the general public it could be very confusing with the different models, especially if lauched simultaneously. Microsoft wouldn't want the average person looking at an iPad for £399 and a Surface Pro for £800+ thinking they were comparable products. Obviously he would go for the iPad.
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there is a issue here though. many would think the windows surface RT runs fully fledge windows and think they can install normal windows desktop apps.

had i not asked and did research in forums i would have assumed all windows tablets run a fully fledge windows OS.

It is poorly advertised imo and the average joe would think the same
 
Photek said:
£399 also gets you a magnesium chassis, not some flimsy aluminium shell.
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Yes, you''ll be able to skateboard on it while you're waiting for a decent app :D :rolleyes:

And just FYI they make planes and rockets out of aluminium alloys so it can't be all that bad, even if MS or you are suggesting it is.
 
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Caged said:
£399 gets you a 16GB iPad with a retina display, a massive choice of Apps, and a large accessories market.

£399 gets you a Surface with ~20GB free space on it, a low-res display and no track record, from the company who brought us such mobile hardware successes as Zune and Kin. It's also about a mile thick.

Sounds like a deal to me. Obviously feel free to remind me of this post when Windows RT and Surface turns out to be a roaring success at these prices.

Edit: Oh, it's you. I can't really be bothered with the hassle I'm afraid – a Microsoft rep could break into your house and flat out brick in your mouth while you slept and you'd still sing their praises constantly.
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TBH the surface is a nice product but right now I dont think its up to the iPads level. The biggest problem for me is the screen, the aspect ratio and super high res are the best things going for the iPad. Also the iPad has some amazing apps.

However the surface and w8 is laying the groundwork, the OS its self I think is the key, and I belive the end goal is too just have 1 version of windows and not the RT crap, just right now we need the ARM chip has intel and AMD are not ready, but soon they will be.

Caged said:
What? No, not at all. The iPad wasn't attempting to knock some random cheap Android tablets off their throne as being 'the tablet', the Android tablets came along after and since they can't compete on features because they are all universally crap, the only place left to go is to compete on price. The Surface is in the same category - it's not built like crap but it's also trying to knock Apple off the top spot, and pricing it the same and getting less won't do that.

With regards to Office, RT comes with an unfinished preview which isn't licensed for any sort of use other than private home users, I can't find any pricing to turn this into a commercial license. It also looks impossible to use on a touch screen. I wouldn't class it as a major selling point personally.

RT is to Windows what those fake iPhones that used the same icons as an iPhone but were different in every other way are to iOS. However Windows 8 Pro tablets will be 4 inches thick, cost a million pounds, get really hot and have a terrible battery life. So you can't really win.
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TBH android tablets such as the N7 are really good, it has all the feature of an iPad if not more, it is just lacking the tablet apps but it is improving, just grouping them all together and saying the suck is not fair. Also the latest sets of numbers showed that iPad is really slowing ground mainly to the N7/Kindle Fire. Not just luck that they are releasing a 7.85" tablet, itsa really nice form factor.
Caged said:
Haha yeah, I'm so stuck in the past that I haven't realised a trackpad and keyboard are the future input devices of this brave new post-PC world.

Good luck with your crusade, but I think it will be a lonely one.
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IF your doing some real work on your tablet you will always find it better to have a keyboard and a trackpad, its just faster and more accurate. IT is just more options, you don't haven't to get the dock with most of these tablets, but if you need one there is a really nice high quality solution for you.
 
jonneymendoza said:
there is a issue here though. many would think the windows surface RT runs fully fledge windows and think they can install normal windows desktop apps.

had i not asked and did research in forums i would have assumed all windows tablets run a fully fledge windows OS.

It is poorly advertised imo and the average joe would think the same
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I totally agree with this. While personally I understood the distinction just from looking at the specs and seeing the different processors. The majority of the population could not reasonably be expected to do this.

I think Microsoft are perfectly aware of this confusion with the products and are purposefully not doing their best to clear it up. They aren't misleading people either, but they aren't doing all they could to make it clear.

If people think the RT can run full windows applications it makes it a more appealing purchase.
 
Greenja said:
I totally agree with this. While personally I understood the distinction just from looking at the specs and seeing the different processors. The majority of the population could not reasonably be expected to do this.

I think Microsoft are perfectly aware of this confusion with the products and are purposefully not doing their best to clear it up. They aren't misleading people either, but they aren't doing all they could to make it clear.

If people think the RT can run full windows applications it makes it a more appealing purchase.
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I'm certain there'll be some confusion, and mis-selling when they hit stores, but it's "Surface with Windows RT". Surely the Windows RT will set alarm bells ringing to some degree, as a) people won't recognise and need to ask what it is and b) if they have Windows XP, Vista, 7 and software that's compatible with all/any of those versions would again need to ask the question will my software for Windows 7 work on this Windows Surface RT? No different when buying any new OS really.

Also the marketing blurb mentions "Visit the Windows Store to discover more apps and games." and "Surface with Windows RT works exclusively with apps from the Windows Store."

Ok it may not be prominent in the marketing, but I'd never expect the limitations to be foremost in any marketing campaign.
 
I think the fact it says 'Windows' will confuse them.

Although Windows Phone seems to be fine, but I think thats because nobody is stupid enough to think a phone would run the same software as their PC.

We shall see.
 
It is a bit confusing. What does RT even mean!?

It should have been called Windows 8 Lite or something that makes it obvious it is a watered down version.

I think it should have been clear that this version is competing with the iPad while the Pro version is for traditional desktop / laptop customers. Average Joe will have no idea what the difference is.
 
feedtheram said:
It is a bit confusing. What does RT even mean!?

It should have been called Windows 8 Lite or something that makes it obvious it is a watered down version.

I think it should have been clear that this version is competing with the iPad while the Pro version is for traditional desktop / laptop customers. Average Joe will have no idea what the difference is.
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exactly and this is my point. even i got confused with this windows RT mumble jumbo. i thought all windows tabs will run fully fledge windows 8.
 
jonneymendoza said:
With most of those numbers coming from a few years back when it was popular.

not that popular anymore.
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Indeed, a vast majorty of people have played, beaten and have got bored of Angry Birds back in 2010!! I've had it loaded on my SGS2 since i've got it and i haven't fired it up in over a year. I can't even muster the effort to fire up AB Space!
 
Its all about instagram, facebook and twitter now mate. so long as those along with other core most used apps are on windows 8 RT. it will be fine.

face it people. 70% or more of the apps on android and ipad are crap and throwaway apps u download, try it for 5mins and never launch it again.
 
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