George Osborne 'forced to pay £160 first class train upgrade'

[TW]Fox;22994197 said:
Oh so they had a fleet of 5 litre cars? Crikey, didn't realise that. There was me thinking I was just using 5 litres to make a point :p
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No I'm not sure what they did have but it was a fleet of luxobarges so probably not that far off the mark in some cases that was reduced to family hatchbacks essentially, but the Labour fleet was a very ostentatious fleet nontheless. All the time when crime got worse, the hospitals and schools suffered and they sent back what they hadn't spent elsewhere on Scotland back to the Treasury. Never again!

I was just running with your own example of such a downscale in displacement, and to say it wouldn't be more economical is a sin.
 
kitch9 said:
I've read some retarded stuff on the Internet.

This post is up there with the best of it.
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Lets have a free for all then?

Lets squeeze the living daylight out of public services, just aslong as the highest echelons can still get in first class without delay?

No, everything needs to be cut back and parity with others might not do them any harm.
 
Wish I had a time machine. According to the polls it is an absolute cert we will get another Labour Government. The difference is this time we will still be in a financial mess. As they have stated they will keep borrowing to stimulate growth. Even Tony Blair stated he could change things round the world but he couldn't reform the public sector wasteful spending.

Everyone on this forum seems to love living in England at presence, I wonder how many will say the same when the country is bankrupt and crying out for help from Europe and the IMF.

Way we are going we will be a 3rd world country whoever is in charge.
 
This may be me, but is there not a huge security risk of high profile members of the government riding around on public transport, especially with some of the hatred for the current Government.

I would say that 1st class is also a safer place to be.
 
Biohazard said:
Lets have a free for all then?

Lets squeeze the living daylight out of public services, just aslong as the highest echelons can still get in first class without delay?

No, everything needs to be cut back and parity with others might not do them any harm.
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How many people work in standard class whilst dealing with their countries secret finances. The same standard class where his assistant cannot even discuss the price of the train ticket in peace.

Uhm, yeah, something, something, parity, something.
 
kitch9 said:
How many people work in standard class whilst dealing with their countries secret finances.
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Data security rules apply the same irrespective of which part of the coach you are in.

kitch9 said:
The same standard class where his assistant cannot even discuss the price of the train ticket in peace.

Uhm, yeah, something, something, parity, something.
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Plebby conductor was it now?

:D
 
*Rich* said:
You're right, i don't think it's a story worthy of the news really.

He should pay up just like any other train passenger. :)
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In fairness, he did. His aide decided he shouldn't and the aide wasn't even near him at the time, would appear he had no input into the argument!
 
RavenXXX2 said:
Muppet Osborne is for the rich, he ***** on the working class and less well off, just like the rest of the tory government. Signs were there when he put tax on the pasty, a favourite snack of the working class, muppet soon knocked that decision on the head.:D
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You read too much daily fail....
 
PMKeates said:
You make it sound like 1st class is some kind of elite minister class? Plenty of 'regular people' use 1st class; it isn't exactly a private coach on the Orient Express.
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No they don't it's a small percenage of the seats. The vast majority of people use standard travel.

First class travel now needs quite senior approval and scrutiny of budgets has meant that people have had to be more down to earth when spending taxpayers money and it is a good thing. It is often significantly more expensive especially in the cases where it was being used for officials only going short distances.
 
This thread is hilarious...

Firstly, Pleb... If he called the Policeman a fatherless child, or a female anatomy part people wouldn't assume he actually meant the guy was a ******* or literally a ****... Oh wait, it's the usual, don't actually try and be better than the other, just make the other seem worse than you instead...

As for the idea that first class on a train is some kind of exclusive club... Laughable! A lot of first class tickets can be had for about £10 more than standard. I used to regularly use first instead of standard when going from Plymouth to London, an extra £10 for 3 hours was worth it... Actually whenever I've been in it probably half of the people in first class certainly don't look anything but normal people...

And then there is the life knowledge of those working in the lower end of the public sector. The idea that all people should go standard class etc. is stupid, especially when compared to the private sector, where the higher echelons of government are under paid and apparently can't even travel first class after official business..
 
It's ridiculous that the Chancellor has to travel in Standard Class. The extra space and lower noise level in 1st would surely benefit him in doing one of the most important jobs in the country.

If it was possible to calculate the value of the Chancellor's time to the country, the "expense" of a 1st Class ticket would be laughable in comparison.
 
Ahleckz said:
If I was the conductor, I'd let him continue because he's doing a great job as chancellor during a very tough time. A thankless job, but at least he has the stones to continue.

A truly great man, I applaud you George.
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Not sure if serious?
 
Amp34 said:
And then there is the life knowledge of those working in the lower end of the public sector. The idea that all people should go standard class etc. is stupid, especially when compared to the private sector, where the higher echelons of government are under paid and apparently can't even travel first class after official business..
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What is the life knowledge of those at the low end of the payscale? Does it matter where you are in the scheme of things if you can comment on something or not?

So you know I've travelled and flown quite extensively at the public purse so I feel at least qualified to talk about it.

I can accept there are occasions where it is cost effective to be in first class, not as a general rule of acceptance however but this isn't even the crux of it, that was the apparent nature of how it was undertaken.

Traveling first class at public expense after official business?

After the scandals of late and the position of the public purse I don't think that a realistic or fair proposal.
 
You'd think the person looking after our money would be a bit more prudent and buy their 1st class ticket for cheaper in advance.
 
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