Not directly employed

groen said:
I have worked at their premises for 3 years. They don't pay me directly but i work for them as much as anyone else here.
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I work in roughly the same way as you, i am employed by an IT company who then put me into fixed term contracts based at client sites.

It has not once crossed my mind that i work for the client. I dont, i work for my employer, the guys who pay me. My contract is with them, and as such all my benefits, pay, annual leave, sick entitlement, etc, go through them.
 
The law firm is probably paying your out sourcing IT company £800-1000 a day for you.

Do you get paid more than the average permie? What type of role is it?
 
groen said:
I just think these out sourced contracts should stipulate that on site staff that are permanent and have been there for a say 2 years should have some of the benefits the internal staff get.
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that's not how it works you are not part of the company. You are just providing a service to that company
 
So without trying to turn the thread on its head. What did we gain from knowing a certain character in this story was a homosexual?

The relevance is, homosexuals are less likely to make drinks for people outside of their own employer?
 
groen said:
I just think these out sourced contracts should stipulate that on site staff that are permanent and have been there for a say 2 years should have some of the benefits the internal staff get.
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They give benefits to THEIR staff to incentivise them. You are not a paid member of staff, they do not need to incentivise you.

If you do not like your benefits then speak to your own manager in your own company.
 
groen said:
I have worked at their premises for 3 years. They don't pay me directly but i work for them as much as anyone else here.
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Why don't you ask this company to employ you permanently? that is the only way you will get the benefits that they offer
 
groen said:
Basically I work for an IT company that has various clients and with the IT company we don't get any benefits what so ever but the law firms that we are permanently based at have a long list of benefits.
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How many of you work there? if its only a handful my advice would be to approach the people in charge of the law firm as a group and explain "our employer is charging you X for our services, we would be willing to work direct for Y" or something along those lines, either that or set up your own company, undercut your employer, and profit.
 
groen said:
Is anyone out sourced or contracted or temp or basically non permanently employee of a company, but yet you work internal to the company and are permanently based there ?

Basically I work for an IT company that has various clients and with the IT company we don't get any benefits what so ever but the law firms that we are permanently based at have a long list of benefits.

private healthcare
gym membership
full pension
bonus
share scheme
loads of other benefits
35 days sick

What we get with it company:
Annual bonus if we are lucky.
20 days leave increases to 25, 1 a year.

It just seems so unfair that we don't get any of these benefits but have to work for the same company. I have been working at this place 3 years now.

What also annoys me is the attitude that the staff have with us. The secretaries and this other homosexual from accounts always ask the internal staff if they want a coffee but never ask us. I just think that is very rude, I asked them why they don't ask us if we want a coffee as we are just in the next office, they said because we work for X company. I don't realy see how that should make any difference.

I heard from this old guy at my previous job that there was a new regulation that forces employer to give contractors the benefits that normal staff get because employers were using this technically to avoid giving benefits to staff that were essentially perm staff.
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heh, this is funny as where i work the contractors get significantly higher pay because they have more leeway to negotiate but obviously lack the long term job security.

Also you constantly post about how **** you are at your job so maybe it's just that they hate you because you're crap.
 
groen said:
At least they could offer us some of the benefits like the gym membership. :(
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why?

should they offer the postman their employee benefits for them too?

he works for an outside company but is regularly used by them too.

groen said:
I just think these out sourced contracts should stipulate that on site staff that are permanent and have been there for a say 2 years should have some of the benefits the internal staff get.
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So make all contracts 23 months long and ditch you all before you become expensive?
 
We are not directly employed contractors we are permanent staff of an IT company that has the contract to do the IT. Which the law firms benefit from because they always have cover and gain from more technical engineers that help if need be and they don't have to employ new staff and so on. But I think they could offer some benefits like gym membership and also offer to make us coffee, basically treat us better and not like a bunch outsiders.

The post man is not permanently based in the office next to them.
 
you're missing the point.

you are employed by company X and provide a service to company Y. Yo uget benefits from company X, so why should you also get benefits from company Y?
 
groen said:
We are not directly employed contractors we are permanent staff of an IT company that has the contract to do the IT. Which the law firms benefit from because they always have cover and gain from more technical engineers that help if need be and they don't have to employ new staff and so on. But I think they could offer some benefits like gym membership and also offer to make us coffee, basically treat us better and not like a bunch outsiders.
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So then you're employer should be the one giving you benefits, why aren't you demanding shares in your it company oir a pension from them?

why the **** should some law firm that uses your company give a damn?


The post man is not permanently based in the office next to them.
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yet is arguably more valuable than you given you frequently turn up late/not at all etc according to your previous posts and it doesn't seem to affect anything.

I bet if you look into it he even gets a little treat at Christmas.

BTW you say the law firms employees treat you like outsiders/don't make you coffee, how many times have you offered to make the secretaries or the gay accounting guy coffee?
 
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