I think the 5### series was another for a while but yeah i noticed, at least for the relatively short time i have been here.
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OMG I love my new Nivdia 680
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I think the 5### series was another for a while but yeah i noticed, at least for the relatively short time i have been here.
No one proved me wrong, some people tried to including final8y but they had no idea what they were talking about... do I really need to point people to the RAGE patch notes yet again? and all the screenshots/threads from AMD users on release with corrupt textures, low res textures, extreme texture popin, etc.? it worked on release yes but with game breaking issues for a large number of users - if you don't believe me search for all the threads that were posted on these very forums at release.
You did read what i said, i said there are people moving over from Nvidia to AMD and preferring it. as well as it going the other way, its down to personal preferences, just because you don't understand it is not the be all and end all.
Aside from the fact anyone whose interested in GPUs and kept up with both over the years will have a pretty good idea of how well drivers and software/tech support works out. As I mentioned before I did extensive private/inhouse beta testing for many years including a good number of titles from the likes of Activision - I have first hand experience of what its like to deal with support from nVidia and ATI/AMD to developers and what driver support has been like before and at release. Unfortunatly theres not a lot of proof online for everything I've done and I've not always been mentioned publicly in the credits and I know people get skeptical when big names are banded about - but one that I know there are other people on these forums can vouch for was ETQW where I was involved in testing the rendering side of it from early on - 2 of the issues I identified and was involved in fixing were problems when people forced texture compression on with nVidia drivers using rivatuner and lack of proper support for a standard RGBA 24+8 texture format on all then current ATI/AMD drivers causing issues rendering and taking screenshots of the HUD on ATI/AMD hardware. Since then as I also mentioned I did a stint at a company similiar to OcUK building, testing and supporting PCs which also gave me a broad experience of both sides of the fence.
Yet again, you point this out as an AMD exclusive issue, conveniently forgetting/omitting that Nvidia users had the same/similar problems, google it, there are loads of problem posts in that title with both AMD/Nvidia angry users.
Total waste of time with you tbh, as regardless of posters pointing out to you that they have no more/less issues with either vendor they use, you will never change your bios and love for all things green.
Yes there were some nVidia related issues but that doesn't make them equal or one better than the other on its own as it turned out in that case there was 2 nVidia related issues of any note and both only affected a small and specific number of users, there was approx a dozen AMD related issues that affected a large proportion of the userbase each and required driver workarounds. As you accused me of being wrong, etc. I'm gonna reproduce some of it here (would take up way too much space to cover it all) as I am 100% correct about this:
AMD related issues many of them identified as driver issues:
nVidia related issues:
Bit of a difference there...
Great AMD released a driver that has reasonably good software support and some great performance enhancements - good for them, doesn't change their track record which is very real and not as good as nVidias by any real world metric and while you and others may be imaging I'm claiming here that nVidia's track record is spotless in comparison I'm really not I'm only imply that its not as bad. If they continue with solid and timely driver releases and putting some real support behind emerging technologies like GPU compute rather than making a big splash and then dropping it like a hot brick I will be the first one cheering.
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I use to feel like you do. AMD is good and they have got better over the years, but every single amd card I've ever bought, while it worked great all ways had one issue or another, even when new. I've just owned nV 5 mins and haven't had one issue or problem with this gpu. I'm so happy that it runs so damn smooth it's scary. I ran many tests yesterday and boy does this new GPU brings me such happiness finally.
So as of right now nVidia is my choice. Those last 3 AMD cards I'm owned have put me right off. Me and AMD are done. Cheap doesn't always mean better. So not all people are moving from nV to AMD.
I have many many cards from both camps over the years and allways been very happy with all of them.
The only problems i had was a sapphire 9700pro and a msi gtx580 both duff memory but apart from that thats it.
I cant comment on the 6 and 7 amd/ati series as iv never owned them but the gtx680 i have now iam very happy with.
What i have experienced with this card is on demanding games when the fps drop it still runs super smooth and i game @ 2560x1600 games maxed.
Iv never tried xfire but sli i have, 2x gtx580 and yes i was getting high fps but games didnt seem very smooth.
Iam thinking of purchasing a 7950 to put in my second rig and see how it compares as the price and reviews seem good.
The only problems i had was a sapphire 9700pro and a msi gtx580 both duff memory but apart from that thats it.
I cant comment on the 6 and 7 amd/ati series as iv never owned them but the gtx680 i have now iam very happy with.
What i have experienced with this card is on demanding games when the fps drop it still runs super smooth and i game @ 2560x1600 games maxed.
Iv never tried xfire but sli i have, 2x gtx580 and yes i was getting high fps but games didnt seem very smooth.
Iam thinking of purchasing a 7950 to put in my second rig and see how it compares as the price and reviews seem good.
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I've had such bad luck with AMD lately....Hope others have better time with it then I did.
Maybe when the 8xxx series cards come out I might have a look, but I'm happy with what I have for now. Next upgrade I'll weight in the pro and cons of both.
Good luck to you
I could spam up the thread with rage problems and other specific titles where they simply wouldn't work on Nvidia gpu's until Nvidia fixed them-in the same sense when it happens with AMD, but I will refrain as we will be here forever putting the boot into each vendor(which unlike yourself is not my style).
With the end result would only prove that they both have problems, what I have said from the very start.
Instead, I'll just leave this here:
'Rage's launch on the PC in 2011 was marred with flaws, resulting in performance problems like texture pop-in and screen tearing. John Carmack, co-founder of id Software, acknowledged these problems in this year's QuakeCon keynote speech and has formally apologized for the shaky release.
Carmack dedicated the first few minutes of his speech to a retrospective on the post-apocalyptic shooter before moving on to its troubled PC debut. Members of the audience responded with scattered applause and calls of "thank you" after Carmack admitted that the game had performed badly in the PC space, saying that the entire situation was "really, really poorly handled".
"There's no way to, you know, to argue our way out of it one way or another," Carmack acknowledged.
"The release on the PC not working for over half of our customers because of the driver issues that we had really was inexcusable on our part."'
In case you missed it, or your head was in the sand...
"really was inexcusable on our part"
From the mouth of John Carmack himself who held his hands up and took the blame as it was ID's fault.
As he's the boss of ID and not an AMD/Nvidia tech, then I'll take his word over a forum user who again, I'm calling out as one of the worst offenders on the forum for putting the boot in more often than not, it's plain childish.
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In pops judge, jury and executioner....Sad
The title of the game and Rroff's AMD bashing go hand in hand 
. RAGE!!! (jokes).
I agree with Tommy though. This needs to stop Rroff and your attitude is actually sickening as quoted below. I've just been 670, 7970 and now using GPUs in sig and they've all worked fine for the short period I used them. I'm even selling the 680s and going BACK to AMD.
If you continue with this behaviour I'd recommend anyone sick of hearing this AMD/Nvidia biased type of posting should just stick you and anyone else that continues with this attitude, on ignore. You've been like this for years regarding AMD so there's no hope of you ever changing your tune regardless of how great AMD are.....
. RAGE!!! (jokes).I agree with Tommy though. This needs to stop Rroff and your attitude is actually sickening as quoted below. I've just been 670, 7970 and now using GPUs in sig and they've all worked fine for the short period I used them. I'm even selling the 680s and going BACK to AMD.
If you continue with this behaviour I'd recommend anyone sick of hearing this AMD/Nvidia biased type of posting should just stick you and anyone else that continues with this attitude, on ignore. You've been like this for years regarding AMD so there's no hope of you ever changing your tune regardless of how great AMD are.....
Tommy: all I've got to say is that you keep saying previous performance doesn't matter but it just does. Looking back historically gives you a good indication of what the chances are of something going wrong in the future or whether it'll be fixed/regress in future.
That's a simple way to describe why it matters but it is the essence of why it matters. This isn't a debate along AMD /Nvidia lines: it's just about measuring the chances of getting good support should something go wrong in a timely manner.
Pointing out that one side or the other doesn't really mean anything neither does pointing out examples where one company has done well and the other hasn't. You have to take the full picture... My own thoughts on the matter are that AMD are on an upward curve at the moment and are continuously improving but that doesn't mean that past performance historically is suddenly forgotten. It's true that Nvidia also have had problems - I don't think anyone is saying the opposite - but again you have to take in the full picture.
If you reply with a load of specific examples then you're not getting my point...
Edit: @J.D. Ah come on he's not being that bad - he prefers nVidia so what? He's not being rude or anything... Anyway there's far more (or at least more vocal) AMD bias in this forum. It's like I'm among a bunch of socialists in here
That's a simple way to describe why it matters but it is the essence of why it matters. This isn't a debate along AMD /Nvidia lines: it's just about measuring the chances of getting good support should something go wrong in a timely manner.
Pointing out that one side or the other doesn't really mean anything neither does pointing out examples where one company has done well and the other hasn't. You have to take the full picture... My own thoughts on the matter are that AMD are on an upward curve at the moment and are continuously improving but that doesn't mean that past performance historically is suddenly forgotten. It's true that Nvidia also have had problems - I don't think anyone is saying the opposite - but again you have to take in the full picture.
If you reply with a load of specific examples then you're not getting my point...
Edit: @J.D. Ah come on he's not being that bad - he prefers nVidia so what? He's not being rude or anything... Anyway there's far more (or at least more vocal) AMD bias in this forum. It's like I'm among a bunch of socialists in here
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Amd zealot rage in nvidia thread shocker.
There is a sad pattern forming here, any thread with nvidia in the title always goes the same way with the same people.(it did get better for a while)
To those questioning Roff, fair enough but at least offer something half constructive back rather than childish come backs.
There is a sad pattern forming here, any thread with nvidia in the title always goes the same way with the same people.(it did get better for a while)
To those questioning Roff, fair enough but at least offer something half constructive back rather than childish come backs.
One day when NV will allow us to increase vcore. That Was selling point of 7950 for me. If 680 had voltage regulation i would buy it not AMD.....
Amd= Drivers every 2 weeks and tests. I like to do it so i like amd. AMD cards are not foe people that want Plug&Play
Amd= Drivers every 2 weeks and tests. I like to do it so i like amd. AMD cards are not foe people that want Plug&Play
Analogy doesn't work here I'm afraid.
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