The employer wants to attract the best people, to do that they need to offer the right package. Pretty simple really.
Ex BBC DG George Entwistle Pay Off
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The employer wants to attract the best people, to do that they need to offer the right package. Pretty simple really.
what do you mean example?
An example of ANY senior executive doing jail time for an offence committed by their company which wasn't directly committed by them. AFAIK there have been none int his country, and none in most Western ones. It's pretty rare for them to even resign, never mind go to chokey. You are claiming it's not unusual, so I'm asking for instances.
No i didn't claim it's usual, i said it can result in that happening.
and i explained that but you deleted that part of the post :/
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It seems somewhat bizarre we have this culture in the UK where when a figure makes a mistake the media bay for resignation rather than the person being forced to stick it out and sort the problem out.
Not a month goes by without somebody calling for somebodies resignation, as if it suddenly makes the problem go away
Not a month goes by without somebody calling for somebodies resignation, as if it suddenly makes the problem go away
A lot of peeps are confusing what DOES happen and what SHOULD happen. Yes contractually he is entitled to 6 months and a year is a good deal for the BBC. However the vast majority of people will agree that 450k for 2 months work by someone who can't perform an interview in his own office is a crappy deal.
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450k pay off... I want my license fee back
2 months work? I thought he had worked at the BBC for over two decades? He wasn't an outsider recruited into the role of DG he was an internal promotion?
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He was promoted to the board last year, but has worked there since 1990.
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I think you've made the mistake of assuming that people consider the facts....
I think you are mistaking how private companies pay employees and how a publicly funded organisation pays employees. I don't care how much my bank pays people as it's the bank's money whereas everyone has to pays TV tax if you own a TV and people don't want to see it squandered. I can guarantee he wasn't forced to take the job!
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This is a fundamental principle of the health and safety at work act.
The person that is held accountable is usually the MD or chairman, so prison terms are not uncommon for those removed from the problem.
That said, knowing of a problem and doing nothing about is is seen as acceptance which is tantamount to doing it either way.
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You only pay a TV "tax" if you use the service though, unless you expect something for nothing....
I think you're possibly ignoring the simple fact that if you employ someone in a job with specific skill requirements, it tends not to matter if it's a "public" funded one, or a privately funded one.
You want someone with the experience and skills to do a job, you pay something at least within shouting distance of what they can get in the private sector, or you tend to get staff who cannot get a job elsewhere*....
The DG of the BBC was being paid less than most of the top guys at the other broadcasters.
IIRC the DG of the BBC has been paid less than the second or third guy at most of the other broadcasters, even before they halved the pay for Entwhistle.
There has been a certain amount of leeway in what people will accept for the prestige of having "worked for the BBC in X role", but that won't work very well when you are paying a third or less of what a newspaper editor can get, for a much more complex job than that of editing a daily paper.
Comparisons to the likes of the PM are rather moot, as to be the PM you don't need any particular skills, just to have been a popular politician (and one of the failings of our political system here, is that basically the PM is just the guy who leads the most popular party), especially when you consider the retirement package the PM gets, and how much they can make the moment they step away from the job (what's Blair charging now, isn't it something like 50k for an evening talk?).
Certainly many of the politician in the UK who have professional "qualifications" don't seem to know things you'd expect of someone with those qualifications (like all the supposedly qualified lawyers in the various parties that don't seem to know basic law).
*And it's interesting how many of the ex BBC staff seem to be able to walk into the same job at another broadcaster and get an instant pay rise.
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Yeah, Blair charges a fortune for an evening. I'm pretty sure Ken's (livingstone) company provide services in how to run a successful campaign, and I suspect charges a hefty amount.
Doesn't the PM's retirement package entitle them to a free house or something? I vaguely remember this as a child and thought it was great that you could basically get a house by being a pm for a day and then retiring (how naive I was xD)
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Doesn't the PM's retirement package entitle them to a free house or something? I vaguely remember this as a child and thought it was great that you could basically get a house by being a pm for a day and then retiring (how naive I was xD)
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I think you'll find that your comments were a little more patronising considering they implied that people here don't understand how businesses operate.
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