Win8 or Win7 decisions

You got be joking...

Pressing the keyboard win key only brings up the w8 start screen..
and there hardly anything on that screen compared to what was in the start menu

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/The-Start-menu-overview

Are you crazy or something?

You can put anything on the Start menu you want..... See a couple of posts back, just put in there whatever you find important. You can even get rid of all the apps if they aren't your thing..
 
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on the machine i was using the colours in explorer looked really bleached out. everything looked white and too bright.

i dont like the ribbon interface in explorer either.

Sounds like monitor calibration issue to me,I've mine hardware calibrated(worth the money buying one) and hardware monitor calibration improves image on any LCD or OS.


I've been reading the compaints which I find silly,basically you can make desktop 99% like Win7,I don't use a modded start menu like Classic Shell or Start8,I do have Restart,ShutDown,Notepad etc... added to Win+x ,(this is how too http://www.howtogeek.com/113775/add-shutdown-and-reboot-to-the-windows-8-winx-menu/ ) .

I also have all my important programs I used pinned to desktop taskbar ie Opera,File Explorer ,Media Centre etc... and only Recycle bin icon on desktop,I've made some nice columns in Metro ie "My games",My software,Win8 applications,removed metro tiles I don't need or use,damn easy,now it takes me two clicks MAX to find what I want and all my important stuff only one click,what's hard with that?..I would say even got them listed alphabetically more or less in Metro as well.
 
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it clearly shows people use the start menu more to start games / programs else why are they moaning about metro and the so called "extra" clicks....

I think most of the moaning is because people see change with very little — if any — benefits.
 
I think most of the moaning is because people see change with very little — if any — benefits.

You could also argue Vista to Win7 was little change on desktop or nothing really new etc...sure you got a performance boost but Win8 offers that as well.

I'll say Win7 to Win8 offers a lot more then Vista to Win7 did and any honest user would agree with me.
 
I'll say Win7 to Win8 offers a lot more then Vista to Win7 did and any honest user would agree with me.

It certainly offers more of a change! Whether that change is good is debatable. 7 put right the things that were wrong with Vista. 8 imposes a whole new interface which is designed for the tablet market.
 
You could also argue Vista to Win7 was little change on desktop or nothing really new etc...sure you got a performance boost but Win8 offers that as well.

I'll say Win7 to Win8 offers a lot more then Vista to Win7 did and any honest user would agree with me.
yeah and win 95 to 98 ect.

people just like to stay in 1995 when the start menu in win95 was released
 
It certainly offers more of a change! Whether that change is good is debatable. 7 put right the things that were wrong with Vista. 8 imposes a whole new interface which is designed for the tablet market.
so what..

the design still works very well for desktops. also its far more customizable.
 
It certainly offers more of a change! Whether that change is good is debatable. 7 put right the things that were wrong with Vista. 8 imposes a whole new interface which is designed for the tablet market.

Sure the change is good,as I stated only 1 or two clicks to get what I need as a desktop user on my desktop PC ,versatile hybrid OS,improved battery performance on my laptop,faster startup etc...improved security,I could go on but a lot of people like to stay in the past and ignore the improvements,if I was like that then I would be demanding we ALL stay on DOS 6.22(my favourite OS of all time) if I can change and adapt in my old age with ease then anybody can.
 
It certainly offers more of a change! Whether that change is good is debatable. 7 put right the things that were wrong with Vista. 8 imposes a whole new interface which is designed for the tablet market.

That's not really true, Vista had most of its issues dealt with via patches but as a brand it was irrecoverably tarnished by that point.

What bugs me the most about this whole Windows 8 'debate' is most people are obsessed with the start screen when from my perspective it's actually a minor issue. I'm far more interest/concerned in what direction they'll go with store and desktop apps.
 
That's not really true, Vista had most of its issues dealt with via patches but as a brand it was irrecoverably tarnished by that point.

What bugs me the most about this whole Windows 8 'debate' is most people are obsessed with the start screen when from my perspective it's actually a minor issue. I'm far more interest/concerned in what direction they'll go with store and desktop apps.

I used Vista from day one,two issues that were not Vista fault was drivers(manufacturers were lazy to get them out ) and OEM companies trying to ship their computers with specs not up to Vista hardware standard,by the time Vista SP1 arrived we had newer hardware more mature drivers etc..obviously by the time Win7 arrived it had even more modern hardware out on the streets and could use Vista drivers as backup where Vista was really a new OS compared to XP so did not have any of those things to fall back on,people have very short memories and like to remember just the FUD.

Vista was/is a good OS in my books(I used it for 2 years +) but had too much tarnish/FUD over the net which had nothing to do with Vista OS itself.

Again Win7 only offers speed improvements over Vista and nothing really new in features etc ..unlike Win8 which does offer a lot more over 7.
 
Are we not entitled to our own opinions?

The OP asked,i gave my answer.

That's not really how opinions work. You can't say anything you want and claim it's okay because it's your opinion.

I know you said for you it feels more awkward, that's not what I'm getting at really, because factually it's less awkward (or quicker) to open things on the "metro" screen than it is on a start menu.
 
Not before the service packs, it was so slow and bloated and looked bad, if we didn't have win7 and still had vista I'd be on xp.

You could argue XP was not great before the service packs either,I think any Windows OS is bloated compared to my favorite DOS 6.22 ;) .


I rather go on Linux before I use XP nowadays,Vista I would be happy to use.
 
You could argue XP was not great before the service packs either,I think any Windows OS is bloated compared to my favorite DOS 6.22 ;) .


I rather go on Linux before I use XP nowadays,Vista I would be happy to use.

Not really a valid comparison, as you're comparing how these products ended up and not where they started off. Vista had to compete against XP while XP had to compete against 98 SE (or perhaps W2K).

I can't remember why but I know I reinstalled XP after trying out Vista and it's the only new version of Windows I've ever abandoned (my hardware was good at the time so don't try and blame it on that). Vista was a turd they eventually polished but I'm glad it happened if for no other reason than to teach Microsoft a few lessons.

Anyway we're getting a little side tracked here, the point was Vista to 7 brought much less than 7 to 8 even ignoring the addition of the start screen and store apps/modern UI.
 
Not before the service packs, it was so slow and bloated and looked bad, if we didn't have win7 and still had vista I'd be on xp.

That's what happened when you ran it on a completely arse computer. I ran Vista at release on a decent PC and it was fine.

You could argue XP was not great before the service packs either,I think any Windows OS is bloated compared to my favorite DOS 6.22 ;) .


I rather go on Linux before I use XP nowadays,Vista I would be happy to use.

Exactly, people say the exact same things for each release of Windows "it's slow, bloated and crap". I don't even believe people know what "bloated" even means because of how much I see it misused.

Not really a valid comparison, as you're comparing how these products ended up and not where they started off. Vista had to compete against XP while XP had to compete against 98 SE (or perhaps W2K).

I can't remember why but I know I reinstalled XP after trying out Vista and it's the only new version of Windows I've ever abandoned (my hardware was good at the time so don't try and blame it on that). Vista was a turd they eventually polished but I'm glad it happened if for no other reason than to teach Microsoft a few lessons.

Anyway we're getting a little side tracked here, the point was Vista to 7 brought much less than 7 to 8 even ignoring the addition of the start screen and store apps/modern UI.

Some people get upset by change. I literally could never see the issues people had with Vista being attributable to Vista or MS itself. I know people had issues (a load of companies were very slow with Vista compatible drivers) but outside of that there was generally nothing to complain about outside of "change".

I worked in a company at the time of Vista's release, I had Vista on my laptop which I was trying to get to talk to their network which wasn't working so we had the network admins remote in to my laptop to change a few settings and I was talking to the guy over the phone as he was doing it.

He was having a melt down about how "bad" and "crap" Vista was/is based solely on the fact that the control panel layout had changed for networking, that was his whole basis for hating Vista (this was his first experience of it mind you). I believe prior to it he'd already made his mind up that it was crap without actual experience.

It was embarrassing to say the least, and I of course called him out on it which he seemed to think was a joke, but this company's staff were going around telling people that Vista was crap and simply didn't work without actual experience of it. I've had Vista on various different computers and it was fine. I only upgraded to 7 because I preferred the UI tweaks that came with it (the super bar for example) and it's for the same reasons I moved to Windows 8, small tweaks that make it a nicer OS to use (like the improved task manager for example).
 
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