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Question about the 660ti

upinsmoke2k7 said:
I think my mobo only supports crossfire not sli so pairing two 660's wouldn't be viable would it?

cue people telling me to pair two 7850's haha
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Nope. I never understood why some board only support CF but not SLI. Strange one. :D

Out of interest more than anything is there any reason you don't want AMD cards? It could just be "because I don't want to" which would be fair enough but just wondered if there was any reason (or hoodoo!) :).
 
To be honest rusty, from what i've read it seems the amd cards can be a bit more hassle. Not in terms of failure rate (although as i understand there was a faulty batch of msi cards recently) i'm sure there's not much in it between both companies. But i'm not too computer savvy so if i were to have hassle with a card or was experiencing difficulties i'd be a bit lost. When i've seen people's opinions on nVidia cards they just seem to have a more straightforward experience even if it's not ultimately the best performance wise.

I appreciate there's lots of help out there if i ran into trouble but i just feel more content going for nVidia.
 
@upinsmokw2k7

Which card are you leaning towards? Have you got a short list?

It does kind of make sense to consider ATi, due to current pricing and that your board only supports Crossfire.
 
I have used both vendors over the years so I guess you could consider me "neutral" and have only ever run into problems on either side by going multi GPU. This is where more issues manifest themselves.

Excluding faulty cards I can honestly say the experience has been painless with both. If you were going multi GPU I would agree that in my experience nVidia offer a smoother experience.
 
SkodaMart said:
@upinsmokw2k7

Which card are you leaning towards? Have you got a short list?

It does kind of make sense to consider ATi, due to current pricing and that your board only supports Crossfire.
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Out of nVidia still the 660ti mate, simply because my board doesn't support sli so two 660's are out of the question and 250ish is my max right now.

If i went AMD then most likely..http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-049-HS

I know everyone is gonna say +1 to that card, i dunno maybe i'm being a fanboy about getting an nVidia, but i dunno i just feel safer. Maybe i should risk going to the darkside..
 
Exactly the same situation I was in.

The HIS cards seem better than the MSI HD 7950, don't think I could have picked a worse time to try ATi to be honest (due to the problems with the particular brand of card I chose)

Have a look at this, should help you decide.

http://www.techspot.com/review/603-best-graphics-cards/

The MSi GTX 660 Ti is a bit pricey at the moment though.
 
Thanks, thats very interesting. What i read from that is the 7950 boost (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-065-HS&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1673) is anywhere between 0-10 fps faster than the 660ti roughly. A few occassions the ti ousts it but only by a frame or two. If i'm wrong pull me up.

I still think the 660ti performs well but there's no doubt the 7950 performs better, one question though, will i visibly see a difference between the two, will that 10fps, not even that on some occassions make a massive difference? If it will then i'm probably sold on AMD...

Obviously i know if for example i'm playing a demanding game and the 660ti lets say on gives 24fps on said game and the 7950 boost gives 34-35 (example) that i'll notice but how often would that be the case, would i notice if one was in the high 80's and the other in the low 80's? Other than benchmarks can i physically notice the difference?
 
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upinsmoke2k7 said:
Out of nVidia still the 660ti mate, simply because my board doesn't support sli so two 660's are out of the question and 250ish is my max right now.

If i went AMD then most likely..http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-049-HS

I know everyone is gonna say +1 to that card, i dunno maybe i'm being a fanboy about getting an nVidia, but i dunno i just feel safer. Maybe i should risk going to the darkside..
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http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-065-HS&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1673

That one is better. Better cooler and cocks higher out the box.

Will be a lot, lot quieter.

upinsmoke2k7 said:
Thanks, thats very interesting. What i read from that is the 7950 boost (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-065-HS&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1673) is anywhere between 0-10 fps faster than the 660ti roughly. A few occassions the ti ousts it but only by a frame or two. If i'm wrong pull me up.

I still think the 660ti performs well but there's no doubt the 7950 performs better, one question though, will i visibly see a difference between the two, will that 10fps, not even that on some occassions make a massive difference? If it will then i'm probably sold on AMD...

Obviously i know if for example i'm playing a demanding game and the 660ti lets say on gives 24fps on said game and the 7950 boost gives 34-35 (example) that i'll notice but how often would that be the case, would i notice if one was in the high 80's and the other in the low 80's? Other than benchmarks can i physically notice the difference?
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You'll notice the difference in BF3 especially if you apply a very small overclock to 1050 MHz. It's the difference between dropping to lower FPS and not in that game. In the other ones you've mentioned I doubt you'll notice the difference. They're not really demanding games so you'll have decent performance on both.

Due to the faster memory on the 7950 it is far more futureproof than the 660Ti as well.

Essentially, it's more performance for less money. The 660Ti isn't really faster in any scenario. The 660Ti is nVidia's answer to the 7870 not the 7950 anyway. nVidia's asnwer to the 7950 is the 670.
 
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upinsmoke2k7 said:
Thanks, thats very interesting. What i read from that is the 7950 boost (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-065-HS&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1673) is anywhere between 0-10 fps faster than the 660ti roughly. A few occassions the ti ousts it but only by a frame or two. If i'm wrong pull me up.
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Yes the HD 7950 is faster overall.

upinsmoke2k7 said:
I still think the 660ti performs well but there's no doubt the 7950 performs better, one question though, will i visibly see a difference between the two, will that 10fps, not even that on some occassions make a massive difference? If it will then i'm probably sold on AMD...
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I have been very pleased with my card, it is a great performer at 1080p, personally I don't think you would be able to tell the difference between the two cards.

Edit: other than in benchmarks.
 
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@Rusty I was just comparing it to an nVidia card. We have established that the HD 7950 is faster, we have not established whether or not OP wants to try ATi.

The comparison above also isn't unreasonable as GTX 670s with custom cooling are out of OPs budget. Reference (stock) cards are close to his budget.

My argument was never that the GTX 660 Ti was better than the HD 7950 it was that the GTX 660 Ti performs well and that I know we will both feel the upgrade itch about the same time ;)
 
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To be fair OP.

Get a HIS HD 7950, the one Rusty linked, give it a fair trial and if your not happy send it back for the GTX 660 Ti - nothing to loose really.

If I had 'known' about these issues with MSi I would have tried the HIS card before going back to nVidia.
 
:D Like Rusty has said, the GTX 660 Ti will fall behind in demanding games:

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Oops, where did that come from?? :confused:
 
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