Cheaper, which means you spend less.
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Cheaper, which means you spend less.
Not to mention the guy was in LA when it happened, whether it was a holiday or business (most likely the latter from sounds of things) he can obviously afford luxuries so he can bloody well pay for it himself! Or better yet, get a real job and start contributing something to society so that he actually deserves the donations to help fix it.
The sort of people that donated are probably just the gullible idiots that spend most of their time reading the dribble on cadred.
He was in LA for IPL5 so business.
You must be one of those people who thinks that people with a talent that brings in money don't contribute to society? You're crazy.
He didn't ask for the donations so ya'll witch hunting idiots can stop saying he did.
Purdy, these guys are totally wacked lol.
They think the staff of these gaming organisations are earning way more than a regular 9-5.
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People pretending that they know the full extent of his financial situation and expect esports managers to be rolling in money, bit sad really people laying into him to something that has been done for him and in which he insisted donations stopped in the run up to Christmas with two kids
As I said and fully agree
House insurance will cover any losses and probably a few items more....
This 15k may tide him over until he gets that cash, but why does he more than any average joe who is involved in a fire deserve a donation thread?
Normal 'non esports' people don't all earn a lot of money, say 20k per year... they will get on with it, maybe family help and then wait for the insurance money to get them on track.
He should hand that 15k to a charity for burns or something - whether he asked for it or not.
There are many different kinds of talent, some more beneficial to society than others.... esports management is certainly not one of them.
Agree so much with you, happens every day to normal people who don't have the kind of publicity to get any help. Also would be good publicity if he was to give it to charity.
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Are you going to speculate like the rest of us, or bring some hard facts to the table?
Yes, he has house insurance, but like any insurance company, the payout will be in months, not days.
This isn't a donation thread, if it was perceived like that then I apologise. It was merely to draw attention to it; I've met and gotten to know ODEE personally, he's a lovely chat that has done so much for the professional UK gaming scene that it would be hard for anyone to have something bad to say about him.
TB set the donation page up primarily for his kids - as already said, everything they owned was in that house, including all the Christmas gear and presents for the children. I don't know about you, but I'd hate for that to happen to anyone.
To those speculating about his "earnings", I won't give you hard facts because it is personal, however if you think they are "living the high life" and earning a lot of money, you're a fool. Highly popular gamers (the likes of SpawN, Heaton, etc) are the only people that make worthwhile money in this industry. The team managers take barely any money at all - I can also say that from personal connections with the owner of what was "alltherage", if anyone remembers them.
Thread's obviously run it's course, may as well delete it thanks to the negativity.
I'm sure it is very difficult for people to just get on with it on that salary considering the amount of damage that has been done.
Nothing wrong with a community coming together to help out a big contributor to it, kind of like saying some people get funds raised for them with cancer and others don't, nothing wrong with it and he has stated that the money that isn't required will be donated to charity, considering he didn't want it in the first place.
Then again, when it comes to you and peoples lives you prioritise meaningless things
I'm guessing you're speaking from experience and running a successful team, right?
I don't need to speculate.
I find it highly probable you know very little about the esports scene while I follow SC2, Dota2 and CoD and have done for several years.
I'm all for not blindly believing what people say but I really don't see any reason for most of the owners behind teams to state that it isn't a profitable business when they don't even get any lime light or revenue from sales anyway.
The most I've ever seen anyone from a team do is suggest you buy their sponsors peripherals.
Sorry though, I do not have their bank statements so no cold hard facts here seeing as they're all different and I know that most of them actually have full time jobs elsewhere.
If the guy wasn't in serious need of the help TB wouldn't have been publicising the push for donations. He's stayed with the guy before and I'd guess that he knows that he isn't swimming in esports cash.
Meanwhile pretty much everything they own is ruined and they're reduced to living in one room waiting for god knows how long for the insurance company to come through.
Amazing how callous some people in this thread are about this guy, hopefully you'll never find yourselves in need of some short term help to keep your family fed and clothed.
Meanwhile pretty much everything they own is ruined and they're reduced to living in one room waiting for god knows how long for the insurance company to come through.
Amazing how callous some people in this thread are about this guy, hopefully you'll never find yourselves in need of some short term help to keep your family fed and clothed.
So you, a random person on the internet are claiming to know more than another random person on the internet because you "follow" the competitive scene?
*start sarcasm*
Clearly it's highly unlikely anyone on an internet forum in a pc gaming section has no idea about gaming competitive scenes or has been a part of one
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Let me put it this way, I've not got experience of being a successful religious studies teacher but i still strongly believe they give very little to society. Point: You don't have to have experience of something to have an opinion on how pointless it is, else i could ask you the reverse, do YOU have experience of running a successful team to know it's beneficial to society?
Got to be honest though i care very little about this whole subject, so unsubscribing from this thread now.
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Even when you claim to follow SC2 you still failed to pull up the earnings chart:
http://sc2earnings.com/
Yeh man these pro players earn very little money!
Even when you claim to follow SC2 you still failed to pull up the earnings chart:
http://sc2earnings.com/
Yeh man these pro players earn very little money!
The majority of those on good money are Korean where things are vastly different.
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Even when you claim to follow SC2 you still failed to pull up the earnings chart:
http://sc2earnings.com/
Yeh man these pro players earn very little money!
So according to that only 35 (25 of which are Korean) players have won more than working a minimum wage job in the UK would have earned them for the last 2.5 years since SC2 was released.