Duchess of Cambridge's nurse has reportedly been found dead

SteveOBHave said:
As are all character based prank calls. This is suddenly a witch hunt against two DJs because some woman that picked up the call topped herself. If that hadn't happened then no-one would care and it would've been a non event.
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If she had not have topped herself then it may not have had the witch hunt you mention yes, but data protection act still exists death or no death, the receptionist would have got a good telling off, and the radio DJs possibly sacked from their jobs or even worse with the law for trying to fraudulently obtain information.
 
Tefal said:
my guess would be

She's lost her job

She sure as hell ain't getting another one in nursing or anything above shop assistant.

Her friends/everyone who knows who she is have probably been taking the ****.

she may have debts/financial issues that were going to become much worse now she is going to be long term unemployed.

everyone at work has probably been quite spiteful and mocking.
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Oh come on. I've been reading backward from the end of the thread to the beginning, and this is by far the most absurd post so far!

You honestly think her life would be over because she told a couple DJs that Kate Middleton was OK? It beggars belief that you'd come to this conclusion.
 
DJMK4 said:
If she had not have topped herself then it may not have had the witch hunt you mention yes, but data protection act still exists death or no death, the receptionist would have got a good telling off, and the radio DJs possibly sacked from their jobs or even worse with the law for trying to fraudulently obtain information.
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I think it's probably more likely that it was a conversation along the lines of "sorry guys but our position is untenable, thanks for all the publicity but it'd look bad if we kept you on... at least for the next few months till this dies down..."

I doubt anyone will care about where those two end up in the next few months.
 
Why is it people are getting there knickers in a twist over the pranksters? they didn't do anything wrong, just having a laugh. They didnt tell her to kill herself did they? No, thats what i thought.

Anything to do with Royalty and most people on here get so over emotional and happy + quick to point the finger if anything happens to them. Who cares if their royalty? there just normal people like you and me.

Example: http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18467338

Look how people are cracking jokes about a dead 2 week old baby in the above thread but how quick they are to point fingers at a bunch of PRANKSTERS saying that they should be jailed because they pranked her and she commited suicide (talk about over-emotional)

Anything to do with Royalty on OcuK and u guys just get a hard on over the queen, kate and harry.


Its a shame she's dead but if she killed herself because of shame then it was a really stupid reason to do it.
 
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No - I agree - the 'OMG the world is ending because someone invaded the royals privacy' card is ridiculous as is the 'righteous' posturing in this thread.
 
SteveOBHave said:
No - I agree - the 'OMG the world is ending because someone invaded the royals privacy' card is ridiculous as is the 'righteous' posturing in this thread.
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Glad someone does, i fear that everyone is gonna start pointing the finger at me now. But it is true, so what if their Royalty, So many people on here get so happy and have nothing negative to say about Royalty always bumming them off so badly.

Who gives a **** if harry and kate are having a baby?

who gives a **** if their privacy was invaded?

who cares if the nurse had a prank call? why should they be punished, its not their fault she commited suicide because of "shame" or whatever the reason may be

Worry about your own life and not their life because they sure dont give a damn about yours and whether or not you like them or not.
 
Nitefly said:
Private information was obtained through intentional deception and dishonesty.
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100% and this is from someone who deals with disclosure of Medical Records and Patient Information every working day.
The nurse disclosed patient information which she shouldn't have done:
1) Confirming that Kate was there
2) Confirming she was fine

It may seem over the top but that's the way it is.
 
A prank, nothing more, nothing less. Far worse has been done previously by others, just not with such a tragic outcome.

Unfortunately, the deceased nurse came from a culture where honour and trust is held in high regard, and was a person who did not have English as a first language,hence her not picking up on the poor accents used by the D.J's, clearly, from the audio, she thinks it is indeed the Queen that she was talking to, addresses her as "ma'am" and puts the call through.....

Subsequently, it appears she could not take the strain of being "outed" worldwide as the person responsible for putting the call through,it was her voice that was broadcast in the main here in the U.K.
Remember, the deceased is the first person you hear in the audio, she disclosed nothing but merely put the call through to the nurse who subsequently did.

Add to that, she was working away from home in employer provided accommodation, at this time of year,feeling low apparently, and missing her family - it starts to add up when you consider this before wondering how she ended up taking her life.

As for the D.J's, well, they will have to try to live with this,when the poor nurse clearly could not.

Tragic all round.


R.I.P. :(
 
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A prank, nothing more, nothing less. Far worse has been done previously by others, just not with such a tragic outcome.
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Thinking about it last night. It occurred to me that this is essentially a case of "Hacking"

The DJ's used false identities to access private information which they then exploited for financial gain.

It may not have involved usernames/passwords and a network connection but essentially it is the same thing.

Either one considers identity fraud (Albeit a rather crude one), Data theft and the commercial exploitation of stolen data to be a crime or not.

Whilst I think it would not be reasonable for the DJ's to personally face criminal charges over the death of the poor woman who they duped, "Hacking" charges might well be appropriate and the Family might well also have a civil case (Damages) against the radio station who employed them and authorised their actions.
 
mrjagga said:
lol not the way some of the people on here go on, the sun shines out of royaltys ass according to some on here lol.
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Yep. I find them thoroughly uninteresting apart from Harry who seems like he couldn't give a toss about all the pomp and procedure. Will seems to be a balding boring ugly like his old man whilst the media is desperate for a new Diana in Middleton to sell to the unwashed.

Sad on the death of the nurse. I'd venture that the radio station is part to blame but nobody could've predicted this result. Though I'd say that nurse had major issues too to reach for suicide. Shoulda left it. With our media she would've been naked in 'the jungle' next year. Cut a cd, shag a footballer, bring out a book about her life and done a week of Big Bro 'celebrity'.
 
The silly thing is, everyone is assuming she wasn't planning to do this anyway. Most(but not all) suicides try multiple times and build up to it, my assumption of the situation is that most likely she had been building up to committing suicide for a long time, and people are over estimating the whole "final straw" potential of something so trivial. Someone can be depressed suicidal, not like their life and still not decide a prank call is worth killing themselves over.

Things like xmas, struggling for money, or a marraige breaking up before a family type event are huge things in terms of depression and why people end up committing suicide. She could very well have already decided to do it that night after work before anything had happened.

Of course, maybe she did commit suicide over the call, who knows. Leaving your kids strikes me as a very long term decision, not something you'd do over a call.

Two kids, xmas upcoming, family, money, very stressful job all strike me as massively more likely to have been the major reason for deciding to take her own life.

Friends and family of depressed people often have no idea, and often ignore things that may have led to it if they find another thing to blame a tragedy on, happens with most deaths not just suicide.

If you go back through 99% of suicides you will find the "final straw", a bill sent by someone, is the company or person responsible, someone took their seat on a train, or gave the bad service in a cafe, or cut them off in traffic, or gave them a bad mark on an assignment, etc, etc. In almost no situations is suicide a result of one thing happening in someones life, and trying to assign responsibility to the last person to interact with them in a negative way, would mean that someone would be in jail for every suicide because someone has been rude or mean to everyone.

When a kid or adult kills themselves because someone bullied them for weeks, months, years on end, they can be held responsible, someone speaks to them once, and isn't even particularly rude and its a very minor incident.... ridiculous to assume they are responsible.
 
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the "final straw", a bill sent by someone, is the company or person responsible, someone took their seat on a train, or gave the bad service in a cafe, or cut them off in traffic, or gave them a bad mark on an assignment, etc, etc
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One could argue that if the "final straw" was an illegal act (Which a company sending a final demand etc would not be of course) then the "Eggshell Skull" rule might apply.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eggshell_skull
 
Dimple said:
100% and this is from someone who deals with disclosure of Medical Records and Patient Information every working day.
The nurse disclosed patient information which she shouldn't have done:
1) Confirming that Kate was there
2) Confirming she was fine

It may seem over the top but that's the way it is.
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I expect that the nurse who actually disclosed the information was not the one who was actually responsible for confirming the identity of the callers. She probably just got a call put through going "the Queen is on line 1, she wants to know how the duchess is doing" and never thought to question it. The nurse who answered the phone in the first place was probably not trained as reception staff and didn't think to question it.
 
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