Being Fat / Getting Fat..

He didn't say abuse people, he just said don't avoid calling someone fat if that's what they are. How can you not understand that? It's the "Oh don't worry son, you're just big boned :)" problem that he's getting at.

Yet another incredible example of someone arguing against a point that wasn't even being made.
 
Zefan said:
He didn't say abuse people, he just said don't avoid calling someone fat if that's what they are. How can you not understand that? It's the "Oh don't worry son, you're just big boned :)" problem that he's getting at.

Yet another incredible example of someone arguing against a point that wasn't even being made.
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An incredible example? honestly?

You are actually incredulous that I got from the comment "if you are fat, expect to be called fat" that the poster was referring to that fact that if you are fat you can expect to be called fat by anyone (note the poster did NOT say "if you are fat, expect a family member or close loved one to express worry for your health and point out you may be getting fat")?

Calling somebody fat that you do not know is abuse, calling somebody ugly that you do not know is abuse (arguably it is if you do know them but again, another argument), calling somebody ANYTHING negative that you do not know is abuse, plain and simple.

If you are on a plane and somebody who needs two seats is taking up most of your side, absolutely, an issue needs to be made, but it should be done appropriately, not just by saying "you're really fat, move over".

My comment is a valid and appropriate response to the original post.
 
Your whole post came down to your inference that he was suggesting abusive behaviour. He said nothing of the sort! You read between the lines and then proceeded to give him a hearty and fully undeserved telling off. You then continue to go on about your point as if you aren't being understood, when you are! The thing you're missing is that it's not relevant to what he was saying at all.
 
I think this is where we disagree, I believe a post on a forum making a bold statement should (quite literally) be spelled out, nothing should be left to be read between the lines, it isn't like having a face to face discussion where body language allows us to fill the blanks, read literally, the post states that if somebody is fat then they are being silly if they do not accept that people will call them fat.

You're probably right, the point was probably that if you're fat and a loved one says that then you can't be surprised by that as it's a statement of fact (albeit one that can be worded in a nicer way). However that is not what the poster wrote, so as a reader what else am I to do except assume they meant that if you're fat you can expect to be called fat by everyone and anyone and you're silly if you believe it won't happen.

My point was that while that may be the reality, it isn't right for that to be the case and the poster should not express that it is what will (and from the tone of the post I assume they believe should) happen.

The telling off (or opposing argument as I prefer to call it seeing as that is what a discussion normally consists of...) was deserved if only because the poster was unclear on a sensitive point.
 
You certainly get an idea of who is fat and who isn't in this thread.

Im fat btw, mainly because i eat too many Subways, Macdonalds, KFC's and takeouts (oh and far too much beer too).

Going to change in the New Year though :D :rolleyes:
 
manic_man said:
I think this is where we disagree, I believe a post on a forum making a bold statement should (quite literally) be spelled out, nothing should be left to be read between the lines, it isn't like having a face to face discussion where body language allows us to fill the blanks, read literally, the post states that if somebody is fat then they are being silly if they do not accept that people will call them fat.

You're probably right, the point was probably that if you're fat and a loved one says that then you can't be surprised by that as it's a statement of fact (albeit one that can be worded in a nicer way). However that is not what the poster wrote, so as a reader what else am I to do except assume they meant that if you're fat you can expect to be called fat by everyone and anyone and you're silly if you believe it won't happen.

My point was that while that may be the reality, it isn't right for that to be the case and the poster should not express that it is what will (and from the tone of the post I assume they believe should) happen.

The telling off (or opposing argument as I prefer to call it seeing as that is what a discussion normally consists of...) was deserved if only because the poster was unclear on a sensitive point.
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Ah Angus Higgins, I missed you.
 
http://www.reddit.com/r/BodyAcceptance

We are often bombarded with the "ideal," and the vast majority of both women and men, do not measure up, regardless of their weight. We all suffer from a lack of perfection and comparison to genetic rarities and we all deserve to feel good about ourselves and comfortable in our skin.
We welcome bodies of all shapes, sizes, abilities, and disabilities. We are about accepting yourself right now, as you are.
 
Zefan said:
Ah Angus Higgins, I missed you.
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I'm not Angus Higgins, I do however write quite a bit for a living and sometimes it's necessary to include context and thoughts in an informal block of descriptive text.

The alternative is a completely new sentence and I find people get bored reading a huge block of text.

For the record, I also found that this board subjected what was clearly an autistic person to unfair attacks for his use of bracketing, it showed a complete lack of empathy for somebody who had no clue why his writing style was being attacked and frankly, it didn't really detract from his posts, but again, another story and completely OT.
 
I probably should say, for context, I am somebody who has always hated their body, I am actually not that overweight and have been working on personal fitness and better eating habits for the past 4 years, I am in a more comfortable place now helped in no small part by my wonderful girlfriend who has made me feel so much more at ease in my own skin.

However, my predominant memories of my childhood are being called the fat one (though oddly enough they always seemed to run away after that as being 6ft 3 and somebody who swam for my local team, training 3 times a week I actually wasn't as slow on my feet as they would have liked). It is unpleasant and was in no way constructive, if anything it drove me further away from society to the point where I visited my first nightclub when I started university at 18...
 
LOL @ OP.... This guy clearly hasn't got married yet, i used to be painfully thin into my 20's. Then once i got married the weight flew on..... I'm the skinniest fat boy you'll ever meet!
 
This is what happens when people get their nutritional information from TV adverts and tabloid journalists.
 
manic_man said:
Why should I EXPECT to be called fat if I am? Why should somebody with ginger hair EXPECT to be called for their hair colour? And yes I realise one can be altered while the other is not a choice, but that argument is moot for this one specific point.
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Think this shows how much of a insanely PC country we are.... If an apple is an apple why not call it an apple?
 
An apple is an inanimate object, a fat person is a person with feelings.

It's not about being PC, it's about being sensitive to other peoples feelings and having the ability to empathise. Perhaps you prefer it when people are straight with you about anything and everything and don't try and wrap anything up in tact, personally I prefer to assume that not everybody wants to hear about their failings from somebody in such a way that it shows they have nothing but contempt for you.

A fat person KNOWS they are fat, whether they admit it or not, they have to buy extra large clothes and find seats on public transport to small and struggle up stairs etc. etc., they don't need some random jobsworth pointing it out to them, nor is it some random jobsworth's business to do so. Please note, I am not grouping this with a worried loved one expressing concern for a persons health, they will know how to communicate their worry effectively and have a right to do so.
 
Ultra_Extreme said:
Have you ever had an IQ test or anything? i feel like you might be entitled to some benefits or maybe your relatives could get a carers allowance or something? Just saying, be a shame if you were missing out.
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Ultra_Extreme said:
Thats not true, they take it off cos its safe inside from the brain control clouds outside. These clouds were hunted to extinction in the 60's and 70's and few cultures still cling to protective hat wearing.
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