Baroness Thatcher in Hospital

Spook187 · 23 Dec 2012 at 13:51

Housey said:
That your simplistic comment was simplistic. I can make it more simplistic if you like and replace simplistic with stupid?

Oh i'm sorry for not swallowing a dictionary when i post comments, one thing i am not is stupid :rolleyes:

Housey · 23 Dec 2012 at 14:08

Spook187 said:
Oh i'm sorry for not swallowing a dictionary when i post comments, one thing i am not is stupid

On the evidence of this thread one could argue that.

Spook187 · 23 Dec 2012 at 14:17

Housey · 23 Dec 2012 at 14:25

You keep supporting my point with each post you make.

Spook187 · 23 Dec 2012 at 14:33

Housey said:
You keep supporting my point with each post you make.

What is your problem man.

robgmun · 23 Dec 2012 at 14:41

Spook187 said:
What is your problem man.

That you think life should be handed to you on a plate? She didn't do anything for me either, but i did it for myself!

Naffa · 23 Dec 2012 at 14:43

I don't like her. I hate her legacy. I hate her comrade Reagan and his legacy. I don't care that she's in hospital.

Merry Christmas.

ShaolinDreams · 23 Dec 2012 at 14:45

Never could stand her, nothing has changed.

Spook187 · 23 Dec 2012 at 14:47

robgmun said:
That you think life should be handed to you on a plate? She didn't do anything for me either, but i did it for myself!

I said she done sod all in helping the likes of me and my family, interest rates on mortgages was out of control, people simply couldn't afford to pay and were chucked on the scrap heap, people like thatcher are not bothered by the working class of this country and never will be.

Naffa · 23 Dec 2012 at 14:50

Spook187 said:
I said she done sod all in helping the likes of me and my family, interest rates on mortgages was out of control, people simply couldn't afford to pay and were chucked on the scrap heap, people like thatcher are not bothered by the working class of this country and never will be.

It's not that she did sod all, she made it more difficult for people like you.

Her legacy can be summed up very simply, liberalisation and less government for the poor and vulnerable, but love and care for the wealthy. They have to be protected, and shielded from market discipline. Seven year old children had to learn responsibility and break the cycle of dependency, but not wealthy institutions. They had their risk socialised whilst their profits and management were privatised... It's a disgusting legacy.

elmarko · 23 Dec 2012 at 14:50

Housey said:
You keep supporting my point with each post you make.

Drop the bad attitude & personal attacks, you are supposed to be a "man of honour".

Naffa said:
It's not that she did sod all, she made it more difficult for people like you.

Her legacy can be summed up very simply, liberalisation and less government for the poor and vulnerable, but love and care for the wealthy. They have to be protected, and shielded from market discipline. Seven year old children had to learn responsibility and break the cycle of dependency, but not wealthy institutions. They had their risk socialised whilst their profits and management were privatised... It's a disgusting legacy.

This pretty much.

AshD93 · 23 Dec 2012 at 14:54

How long till someone makes a prank call...

No1newts · 23 Dec 2012 at 15:00

Naffa said:
It's not that she did sod all, she made it more difficult for people like you.

Her legacy can be summed up very simply, liberalisation and less government for the poor and vulnerable, but love and care for the wealthy. They have to be protected, and shielded from market discipline. Seven year old children had to learn responsibility and break the cycle of dependency, but not wealthy institutions. They had their risk socialised whilst their profits and management were privatised... It's a disgusting legacy.

Well that's one opinion.

Naffa · 23 Dec 2012 at 15:04

No1newts said:
Well that's one opinion.

I would love someone to try and convince me that her legacy is not exactly as I have just described it.

kitkat9933 · 23 Dec 2012 at 15:08

She's coming out of hospital =/ Had my Fireworks ready and champers ready...

NuggetUK · 23 Dec 2012 at 15:09

No1newts said:
Well that's one opinion.

Housey · 23 Dec 2012 at 15:17

elmarko1234 said:
Drop the bad attitude & personal attacks, you are supposed to be a "man of honour"

I am not making personal attacks or showing a bad attitude and I certainly don't need instruction from you thanks. My point was that the point made was simplistic based on the fact that the metric was "she did nothing for me or my family so she was rubbish". THAT is simplistic and some might say a silly even stupid statement. I have not issue with the individual who made it, I don't know him and trying to make it something personal is also stupid, for it isn't. Im focused on the point made, nothing more.

Housey · 23 Dec 2012 at 15:20

Spook187 said:
What is your problem man.

That your point that because she did nothing for you or your family she was rubbish. If that and the fact that briefly we went to an interest rate of 15% for a few hours then it's hardly a debate worthy of discussion. THAT is my point, don't take it personally as attacking you as Im not, I just think your argument is stupid, not you.

Tummy · 23 Dec 2012 at 15:23

Housey said:
That your point that because she did nothing for you or your family she was rubbish. If that and the fact that briefly we went to an interest rate of 15% for a few hours then it's hardly a debate worthy of discussion. THAT is my point, don't take it personally as attacking you as Im not, I just think your argument is stupid, not you.

Spook187 said:
Oh i'm sorry for not swallowing a dictionary when i post comments, one thing i am not is stupid

Housey said:
On the evidence of this thread one could argue that.

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Housey · 23 Dec 2012 at 15:25

No1newts said:
I would rather read/listen to someone speak on a subject who is far removed from it but presents a balanced view of all the facts than someone who, for example, was in one of the industries effected by Maggies actions. One can provide a balanced and reasoned view, the other will be emotionally charged.

But the only way they can be far removed is not being part of it and then the only way they can form any opinion is by listening to people who were. It also assumes that the commentators remove all their emotion from their summaries or perspectives, which again isn't the case.

I stand by my point. An objective person who was there and then educated themselves broader after the event will have a better perspective than those who only did the latter because you are assuming that everyone who experienced it has the inability to be objective, which isn't the case.