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There is a way to burn the games to disk tho inst there?
Do we actually 'own' our Steam games ?
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Not really viable, and it wouldn't be your conventional way, pretty much just burn the folder of the game so you can paste it back in and hope Steam still works with it
If you had to get all your games, just do it on hard drives and download them all and install it there.
Of course you do....
Not really viable, and it wouldn't be your conventional way, pretty much just burn the folder of the game so you can paste it back in and hope Steam still works with it
If you had to get all your games, just do it on hard drives and download them all and install it there.
You still need to activate them on first launch, so that wouldn't work, unless they removed the DRM.
You're speaking as if EA even had enough money to buy Valve.
https://www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ:EA&fstype=ii
With the new Digital License laws from the EU (One thing I respect about the EU at least is niceties like this), Steam will have to comply to them, the new Steam Market seems like it is a prototype of that...though I don't know entirely if that is the case.
However we in the UK are unique in that EULA's are void anyway, I don't know about other agreements and if the recent Steam one awhile ago applies.
However we in the UK are unique in that EULA's are void anyway, I don't know about other agreements and if the recent Steam one awhile ago applies.
Nope............That why your not really allowed to copy it / mod it /share it / sell it/
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Whenever you buy pretty much anything digital you own a license to use it rather than the actual thing
If you read the steam terms and conditions what you're actually buying is a subscription that they can revoke at any time
If you follow consumer law, you know that such terms and conditions do not mean anything, until they have been tested in the court of law.
There is now precedent that EU courts will ignore statements like those (look up the recent oracle court case). If you pay a few for a piece of software, and have an effective eternal licence for that piece of software, there is no practical difference from owning it. So as far as the EU courts are concerned (in the recent ruling), you do own it.
This also means you should have the right to sell it. Valve recently changed their terms & conditions to deny this, but still, it's untested. Very early days.
I'd like to add: this whole notion that software is not owned, is a con that has been sold to use since the dawn of software. It's ALWAYS been debatable, and has been debated by lawyers on either side, but never been properly tested in court until recently.
There is no difference between a piece of software and a book, or a music CD, or a movie DVD, and they have always been sold. Music and video companies have tried to contest this point, and failed, and they tried again when music and video shifted to digital distribution, this time with more success (sadly). But as far as software and games are concerned, you do own it, despite what the license agreement says.
Annual data shows a healthier picture. It's always misleading looking at quarterly data.
Yes, you DO own it. Jesus.
Steam isn't simply a buy for less-sell for more schoolboy tuckshop style business. There is more to big businesses than worrying about per sale profit. Sometimes businesses will make calculated losses in one area to make a profit in another.
No you don't own jesus
You can copy him ,share him, rent him, play with him ,dump him, but you don't own him..
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here here! terms of service do not override consumer law. Some of the responses in this thread really rustle my jimmies...
With an estimated company value of $2.5 - $4 billion with only 290 Employees and and estimated turnover of £100's of Millions annually, I'd say you have nothing to worry about thus far....as said above, if they did run into trouble they would be snapped up in an instant.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/oliverchiang/2011/02/15/valve-and-steam-worth-billions/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/oliverchiang/2011/02/15/valve-and-steam-worth-billions/
According to EU law you own it. According to Steam you don't. Read the T&Cs on the box. They refer you to the Steam website which states that you are buying a subscription to the game, not an actual product.
When you go out and you BUY a BOX, DISC, MANUAL e.t.c. then you DO, completely and UTTERLY OWN it. This has nothing to do with EU Law, or Steam's ToS, if you go out and you buy a box, you own that box. Period.
You will find that Steam will still transfer games between accounts where a proof of purchase is provided, in recognition of this FACT that when you buy a box and a disc, you do actually OWN that box and disc.
Where there is confusion is with digital downloads, but no one has the right to tell you that when you go out and you buy a box and a disc that you don't then own that box and disc.
Jeeves: And what will Sir be buying today?
Well Jeeves i will be procuring a mint condition beige square box with a shiny metal disc inside, i have wanted one of them for years. I have lots of blue, black, red boxes but what my collection is missing is ******* beige....oh yeah. And the metal shiny disc i can use for as a lovely beer mat (to add to my 1000 shiny beer mat collection).
Cos thats what we want right? We want a ***** box with a shiny shiny disc thingy woohoo. Thats what im buying haha.
t&cs mean utterly **** all. Hell you might as well write your own T&cs on a bit of toilet paper and give it to valve/retailer when you buy your box and disc...They dont have to sign it either..
Well Jeeves i will be procuring a mint condition beige square box with a shiny metal disc inside, i have wanted one of them for years. I have lots of blue, black, red boxes but what my collection is missing is ******* beige....oh yeah. And the metal shiny disc i can use for as a lovely beer mat (to add to my 1000 shiny beer mat collection).
Cos thats what we want right? We want a ***** box with a shiny shiny disc thingy woohoo. Thats what im buying haha.
t&cs mean utterly **** all. Hell you might as well write your own T&cs on a bit of toilet paper and give it to valve/retailer when you buy your box and disc...They dont have to sign it either..
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