Can you answer my point about infinity please?
Will God accept you if you renounce religion?
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Can you answer my point about infinity please?
Ah yes, that was the one I was thinking of. I always forget the name, I think Francis Drake
I sometimes wonder if people even read the links they provide as evidence.
The Drake equation can be used to statistically prove we are alone in the universe or we are one of over 180 million civilisations. That should tell you how scientifically sound it is. To be fair to Drake however he never intended it to be a proper scientific equation but rather a discussion point.
Except it doesn't. Most physics is based on observation and experiment. The Drake Equation is not even comparable to the vast majority of Physics.
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MOST of physics in based on conjecture? Really?
Are you making the mistake of thinking because something is not physically visible (ergo pretty much all of what physics studies) then the conclusions of studying it are nothing but best guesses?
The fact physics theories (and again the word theory in scientific terms pretty much means 'accepted fact') exists kinda disproves that statement.
This isn't an answer.
The problem with this is that we have working models that contradict accepted fact.
Lol, simple explanation, if any of these physics laws were different, we wouldn't exist so you would be able to say that. There might be billions of universes where the laws didnt fall favrouably, and no matter or life existed.
So massively flawed logic you have.
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And the great thing about science is when that happens (I'd be interested to see your examples) then the theory is updated.
Not something that happens with the Bible or Qu'ran.
It's a good thing I wasn't using the Drake equation as evidence 
I am well aware of what the Drake Equation is, and how it works. Maybe my post earlier was a little misworded, I should have put "there is massive statistical evidence that there is a high probability of aliens existing" as I seem to have been misunderstood.
I am well aware of what the Drake Equation is, and how it works. Maybe my post earlier was a little misworded, I should have put "there is massive statistical evidence that there is a high probability of aliens existing" as I seem to have been misunderstood.
It's a good thing I wasn't using the Drake equation as evidence
I am well aware of what the Drake Equation is, and how it works. Maybe my post earlier was a little misworded, I should have put "there is massive statistical evidence that there is a high probability of aliens existing" as I seem to have been misunderstood.
No there isn't, there isn't any statistical evidence at all.
Indeed, however Theology is also dynamic, interpretations on the Bible (and to a lesser extent the Qu'ran) are updated and refined all the time, the evidence for this is illustrated by the array of different denominations and interpretations of scripture and how they are applied.
It's a good thing I wasn't using the Drake equation as evidence
I am well aware of what the Drake Equation is, and how it works. Maybe my post earlier was a little misworded, I should have put "there is massive statistical evidence that there is a high probability of aliens existing" as I seem to have been misunderstood.
Where is this massive statistical evidence?
I don't claim to be the biggest physics buff, far from it, but from my current understanding of Quantum Mechanics it doesn't really work with General Relativity. Hence why we are trying to find a Unification theory. The same way the the Clockwork Universe theory didn't work with General Relativity, so they used what works from both.
I love science sometimes
Wow, didnt expect that cop out. Had enough play then have we?
Please feel free to shortly summarise the evidence for the existance of a god.
I have said my standpoint
I.E:
There is no evidence other than a book written by men 2000 years ago.
I do not feel that a book should be taken as fact with nothing to prove any of its claims.
Hence my so called evidence is that there isnt any.
So,
What is your evidence to prove the existence of a god?
As for evidence, we ourselves are evidence of life being able to form given the right conditions. Therefore, with planets that have the right conditions for carbon based life, at least, to form, there is a chance that life will be able to form there too. Besides, wasn't there evidence of microbiological life in the atmosphere of Venus? Not to mention that life may not be necessarily dependent on a carbon base.
So, I guess it is conjecture. But, there is more evidence for that than there is for a deity. However, I am not trying to denounce others' faiths, I am simply backing up my opinion.
So, I guess it is conjecture. But, there is more evidence for that than there is for a deity. However, I am not trying to denounce others' faiths, I am simply backing up my opinion.